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#65952 - 08/19/07 07:10 AM 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
Vital22 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
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Loc: Southern California
I have been through 3 copies of the Road Warrior HD DVD and all have no sound from the surround channels.(DD+ 5.1 mix)

At first I thought it may be a fluke disc but
I also own the standard def DVD version and the sound on it is very active in the surround(DD 5.1) especially the opening tracking shot to the Inteceptor. So I can't believe that Warner's just put out a a sub standard DD+ audio track.

My Toshiba HD-A2 is connected to my Outlaw 990 via HDMI (Video Only) and through the SPDIF for Audio. As we know, all HD audio tracks are downconverted to DTS through the SPDIF on an HD-A2.

I have @ 30plus HD DVD's and "The Road Warrior" is the only (5.1 mix) that has no surround info. I am positive my system is wired properly.
(Been reading Gonk's posts for years)

In the HD-A2 Set up menu I have the SPDIF set to Bitstream and the HDMI set to downmixed PCM (Per the manual pg.53). I Know my 990 is configured correctly, all of my standard def and other HD DVD's sound fine.(I use DTS Neo 6 on HD DVD, and DD + PLIIxMovie on standard Def)

Either Warners has put out an inferior audio track and nobody remembers the old one or On this particular disc the HD-A2 causes an error when downconverting to DTS through the SPDIF.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Naturally I am certain it has nothing to do with my 990.

Does anyone have an HD-A2 connected to a receiver using HDMI v1.1 audio with the HD-A2 set to either PCM or Auto in the HDMI Setup? With current firmware 2.2 updates. If So check out "The Road Warrior".

Check out this thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=845394

My Equipment:
Outlaw 990 Prev.950
Emotiva RPA-1
Emotiva MPS-1
Toshiba HD-A2
Magnepan MMG R/L
Magnepan MMGC C
NHT IW3
NHT IC3
Outlaw LFM-1
Velodyne F-1200
Mitsubishi HD 1000U Projector
Elite 84" Screen
Oppo 971
Pioneer DV-588A
HTM MX-700
Blue Jeans Cable 10AWG/HDMI
Outlaw Interconnects

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#65953 - 08/19/07 02:43 PM Re: 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
gonk Offline
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Now that's curious. There was at least one person in that AVS thread using multichannel analog output of an XA1 and having the problem - sounds like a problem with the DD+ track itself somehow, and thus not the DTS output. Maybe I'll stick this in my Netflix queue and check it out on my A2.
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#65954 - 08/19/07 03:23 PM Re: 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
Vital22 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Southern California
Thanks Gonk, I am very curious as to your diagnosis.

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#65955 - 08/19/07 04:17 PM Re: 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
gonk Offline
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It's in the queue - just have to find time to watch Blood Diamond and drop it in the mail...
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#65956 - 08/19/07 06:14 PM Re: 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
Vital22 Offline
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Loc: Southern California
I really enjoyed Blood Diamond more than I thought, especially from a "Father/Son" perspective.

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#65957 - 09/13/07 03:45 AM Re: 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
gonk Offline
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I poked around through the disc a bit this evening. The player seems to be working properly, as the studio logo before the feature was accompanied by full 5.1 at least. I think it's just the way the audio is mixed - which, based on comments by yourself and others who have heard the older DVD, would seem to suggest a slip-up in the mastering process (grabbed the wrong audio, perhaps, or messed up the audio encoding somehow). The picture looked quite nice, at least.
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#65958 - 09/15/07 04:49 AM Re: 990 /HD-A2 issue with "The Road Warrior"
Vital22 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Southern California
Thanks again for the follow up Gonk. Yes I have come to find that it is the way the audio is mixed on this particular Hd title. It really is too bad as clearly this movie would benefit from the surround info. My A2 is up to date with the latest 2.5 firmware release and every other title I have played looks and sounds great.

My Equipment:
Outlaw 990 Prev.950
Emotiva RPA-1
Emotiva IPS-1
Toshiba HD-A2
Onix Rocket 850 R/L
Onix Rocket RSC 200 Center
NHT IW3 surrounds
NHT IC3 back surrounds
Outlaw LFM-1
Mitsubishi HD 1000U Projector
Elite 84" Screen
Oppo 971
Pioneer DV-588A
HTM MX-700
Blue Jeans Cable 10AWG/HDMI
Outlaw Interconnects

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