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#65118 - 04/11/07 07:05 PM Denon DN-A7100
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#65119 - 04/11/07 07:22 PM Re: Denon DN-A7100
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I've looked at the documentation for that processor some time ago, and frankly I wasn't overwhelmed with it. True, it has HDMI v1.1 (although the only way you can ever tell is by reading the silk screening on the rear panel - the manual made no mention of using the HDMI inputs for audio that I was able to find), but there are no unbalanced pre-amp outputs and no way that I found to tell if any surround processing can be applied to multichannel PCM signals delivered via HDMI (such as using Pro Logic IIx to generate rear surrounds from a 5.1 PCM signal). Also, there is no transcoding of analog video signals to HDMI, which is something that I think really belongs on the next generation of HDMI-based processors. D&M sells that unit under the "Denon Professional" brand, and the design and manual both suggest to me that they aren't intending to try to sell it to the average consumer.

Outlaw has already indicated that they are pursuing HDMI v1.3 for their next generation (although I suspect that they, and many others in the same position that they are, would just as happily wait another couple of years for HDMI v1.3 to mature and go with HDMI v1.1 for the time being). Whatever they do along those lines will be a much more consumer-friendly and flexible product than the DN-A7100 looks to be.
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#65120 - 04/11/07 07:37 PM Re: Denon DN-A7100
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"Outlaw has already indicated that they are pursuing HDMI v1.3 for their next generation (although I suspect that they, and many others in the same position that they are, would just as happily wait another couple of years for HDMI v1.3 to mature and go with HDMI v1.1 for the time being). Whatever they do along those lines will be a much more consumer-friendly and flexible product than the DN-A7100 looks to be."


Yes after hastily posting this, I noticed in another thread that Outlaw is already going after v1.3

And I do agree that this Denon isn't all that appealing, and I wasn't suggesting that Outlaw copy it. I was thinking more along the lines of the bare bonesness of it, and with some of the Outlaw "touch" something like this would be perfect for those looking forward to audio over HDMI...like me.

In any case, I did read over at AVS that it will overlay DLPIIx over PCM.

And I can't wait for Outlaw's next pre/pro.

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#65121 - 04/11/07 08:07 PM Re: Denon DN-A7100
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And just for the record I did say "...but better."

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#65122 - 04/11/07 08:14 PM Re: Denon DN-A7100
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And at least we can count on Outlaw to provide a better manual than the one Denon wrote for the DN-A7100.
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#65123 - 04/11/07 08:17 PM Re: Denon DN-A7100
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Originally posted by Bri1270:
And just for the record I did say "...but better."
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#65124 - 04/11/07 08:41 PM Re: Denon DN-A7100
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And at least we can count on Outlaw to provide a better manual than the one Denon wrote for the DN-A7100.
I'm confident that we can count on them for much more than a better manual!!

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