Gonk, Sorry if you consider my post trolling, it is not meant to be trolling. It just goes to the problems that Outlaw was/is having with the 970 & 990, and how it parallels to a younger internet company in Emotiva. It still is quite ironic how you documented and asked so many questions of company on a product that you don't own, yet not much on documentation or questions of a companies products you do own. Parallels do seem come full circle. As for steering this thread off course, I apologize to those forum members that I may have offended, and will officially steer clear of this thread.