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#64317 - 02/22/07 02:33 AM Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Hi fellow Outlaws,

I'm planning on consolidating my remotes and want a universal remote with real buttons. I'm looking at the Universal Remote MX-500 which has received much praise. I checked a database to see if the Outlaw family of products was there, but didn't find any. Can someone tell me if I'll be able to use this remote to control my 990 preamp?

thank you,
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#64318 - 02/22/07 07:15 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I don't think that Outlaw is in the database, but the MX-500 is a very straightforward learning remote (see my MX-500 review for notes on how I used it with an Outlaw Model 950). You will definitely be able to use the MX-500 with your Model 990.
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#64319 - 02/22/07 01:33 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Hey Gonk,
When I started this thread I thought you would likely be the person who'd help me out, but I had no idea you'd have an entire review devoted to the MX-500! That was a great and very informative read. I'm stoked about this remote now.

Got a couple more questions for you if I may. In addition to the 990, I'll also be controlling Theatertek on my HTPC and the lights in the theater which will be Lutron Spacer system. I currently control Theatertek with my MCE remote. Do you think the MX-500 will learn the commands from that remote successfully?

I noticed on the remotecentral.com website that three Lutron code sets exist. Do you know if the Spacer system is one of them?

thank you,
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#64320 - 02/22/07 06:37 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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If the MCE remote uses IR, it should work fine. As for the Lutron, I've got a Lutron dimmer in my den and my MX-700 learned the commands from it just fine - the MX-500 should likewise learn them if the code sets don't give you what you want.
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#64321 - 02/23/07 12:57 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
Craigo87 Offline
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Great, thanks again gonk.

I'm also considering the MX-700 since they're only a few bucks more than the MX-500 on ebay. Problem is, both of my current pc's only have USB 2.0 com ports. Do you know of any workarounds to the RS-232 connection? I probably don't need the MX-700, but...

thanks,
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#64322 - 02/23/07 01:19 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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There are USB-to-serial adapters that should allow you to connect an MX-700 to a PC that lacks serial ports. Haven't used any yet, but I figure my time will come.
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#64323 - 02/23/07 12:55 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Craigo, are you looking at the same ebay MX-700 that I'm watching?
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#64324 - 02/23/07 05:56 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I probably am Bobzoom, but I'm 99% sure I'm going to pass. I'm leaning heavily towards an MX-500. I have a couple of old pc's that have RS-232 I/O's, but they're pretty old and slow. Not sure if I want to count on either of them for remote support in the future. The MX-500 will do everything that I need, so I think I'll just stick to one of those for now. Did some reading on RS-232 to USB converters and it's not a simple cable solution. There are voltage issues among other things that make them quirky. Yeah, think I'll get my feet with with an MX-500.

thanks,
Craigo

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#64325 - 02/23/07 09:04 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Craigo, I took a pass on the MX for now. I've been to the remote central website looking around. There seem to be a lot of people complaining they are no longer able to get the software for programming the MX700 and later models. Apparently you now need to fill in a serial number to get the download. If the remote didn't come from an authorized dealer you are out of luck. Although perhaps there's another source.

And I'm wondering about other programmable remotes that are consumer versions. Some of them seem fairly powerful and come with software as part of the package. Does anyone know anything about the URC300?
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#64326 - 02/23/07 10:29 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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There are ways to get at least the final non-Live Update version of the software (I've mirrored them in my MX-700 review ) and if you get your remote from an authorized dealer you can get the latest (with Life Update) software - someplace like Surf Remote would be good about helping with that.
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#64327 - 02/23/07 10:45 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I'm much more comfortable with the idea of using a PC interface than I am going through the process of repeatedly pressing buttons to teach the remote. I'm still on the fence...but leaning towards the MX-700 or a later model.
Is it really necessary to get the live updates?
The URC300 got nice reviews on Amazon. But it's a button pushing exercise. I'd much rather push keys on a keyboard.
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#64328 - 02/23/07 10:55 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I never used Live Update when I had a version that supported it. I either download user files from Remote Central or I learned commands.
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#64329 - 02/24/07 03:20 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Quote:
Originally posted by BobZoom:

Is it really necessary to get the live updates?
The URC300 got nice reviews on Amazon. But it's a button pushing exercise. I'd much rather push keys on a keyboard.
Live updates are nice since URC updates the IR database for equipment the remote can control without having to use a downloaded file from someone else, or learning all the commands for a device. That said, I have downloaded and used user files from remote control central for my MX-850, and they work fine, in fact, sometimes the files on remote control central have more buttons learned then what the device has in URC's IR database files. There are some vendors on ebay that do offer the live update version of the software. The dealer Gonk suggests posts at RCC often, seems helpful, and many people report they are happy with their service. If you decide to go with a local "authorized" dealer, make sure you get it written into your sales receipt that the current live update version of the software, and future versions are included with your purchase....people have had problems getting the software from some "authorized" B&M dealers.

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#64330 - 02/26/07 09:39 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I found a dealer on ebay who has the MX-850 for 200 bucks including shipping. He has a nice warranty, great feedback and supplies upgradeable software. I'm going to go for it and will let you know how it works out.
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#64331 - 02/26/07 03:05 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I've been toying with the idea of buying something like this, but am torn between models. There is now also an MX-950. Are these MX models better, more powerful than their logitech counterparts?

BobZoom, I look forward to reading about your experiences with this remote. The price is certainly right.

John

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#64332 - 02/26/07 04:16 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Purchased an MX-850 about a year ago, same route Bob is considering. Thus far it has been able to control the ten devices I have in my various rooms well. The MX line is marketed for Custum Installers, not typical end users, and that is probably why URC implemented it's new policies on the programming software....trying to steer regular folk to their consumer line. If you have any type of programming background, it should not take much time to ramp up on how to program it and get some useful macros setup. The differences I know of between them are a significant increase in the # of devices you can control from 25 on the MX-850 to 255 on the MX-950, port used to communicate with a pc (850 serial, 950 usb), and some cosmetic differences in the design of the remote. I do wish the 850 had a usb port, because my current thinkpad laptop does not have a serial connection..makes me break out the old dell inspiron from time to time. I can't compare it to the logictech remotes since I have not used any of them; but the idea of not being able to program the remote, and having to connect to the logictech website to setup your devices did not appeal to me.

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#64333 - 02/26/07 04:20 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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As a general rule, I consider the MX's to be more customizable (better direct control over exactly what is happening in the background), while the Harmony remotes offer a less intimidating setup process at the expense of isolating you from detailed controls. You can probably get a Harmony up and working faster than an MX, but there will be things about the way it performs macros that you won't be able to directly control.
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#64334 - 02/26/07 07:35 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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mm_half3 and gonk,

thank you, both, for the response and information.

If, by programming, you mean computer programming, using computer language, I'd be lost. I have no experience with computer program language. Is this what's involved?

I actually like the appearance of the 950, better, but it's at least twice the price. Also, I've read of complaints about poor customer support, in one posting. This is a bit of worry, given it'll probably be a year before I have everything worked out, within my system (hopefully).

I think, in my case, it would be wise to wait. I also find the Harmony 1000 appealing, but have read some complaints of issues with this device, with the recommendation to wait for version two.

I think I should wait.

In any case, thanks for your responses.

John

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#64335 - 02/26/07 07:46 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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You can download the MX series software from my MX-700 review and play around with it - the software is similar for all of the MX remotes (basically identical for the 700 through the 850, in fact). You can also go through a demo of the Harmony software at Logitech's site.
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#64336 - 02/27/07 09:45 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Thanks, Gonk,

it appears perhaps time consuming, but otherwise doable.

Again, a helpful review.

John

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#64337 - 02/27/07 10:15 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I also have the MX700. I'm very glad I went with it over the MX500. Basic programming is very simple with the software. More advanced stuff requires a bit of trial-and-error (or asking those of us who have done it already), but it doesn't require writing any code.

The sheer convenience of being able to type in the label names instead of keying them in was enough for me. Add in the fact that you can download ready-made codes, discrete on/off codes and save lots of configurations (good for practicing playing with new functionality), it was a no-brainer for me.

What still amazes me about the 700 (and I haven't used the 500 to compare) is the IR strength. I'm only on my second set of batteries in about 3 years, and I can point it literally anywhere in the room to control my Outlaw. At the couch, the wall, the cat. It's insane. Usually I don't even have to pick the remote up. Wherever it's lying, I can just mash the buttons I want and it works.

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#64338 - 02/27/07 10:37 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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That's a good point - both the MX-500 and the MX-700 have really good IR strength.
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#64339 - 02/27/07 12:49 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dr_JB:
mm_half3 and gonk,

thank you, both, for the response and information.

If, by programming, you mean computer programming, using computer language, I'd be lost. I have no experience with computer program language. Is this what's involved?


John
As stated, you don't need computer programming background, but the software is not exactly something made for someone who is not comfortable with computers and or other technical devices. It has been rumored that part of the reason URC went with their current software policies was because they were getting too many end user support calls about basic software questions, and their Custom Installers were having trouble getting support for more complicated macro issues....don't know if I buy that one. The point I was trying to make was the software does take some time to learn, and any type of coding experience (computer or other universal remotes) would cut the learning time down...but even without any coding experience the software can be learned if you spend some time experimenting with how to use it.

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#64340 - 02/27/07 05:52 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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mm_half3,

thanks for the explanation. I shouldn't have any problem with learning a new software program. However, as all this technology is in a continual state of flux, I think I may wait and make this, a universal remote, more of a final purchase, after the essentials are in place, which are months, yet, down the road.

I love my new 990, however and the power of my new system; it’s like an addiction!

Again, thanks for the explanation.

John

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#64341 - 02/27/07 07:03 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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No problem...sounds like a good plan John. Once you get all your gear settled, and you have to futz around with three, four, or five remotes, you will really be ready for a good Universal to pare it down to one.

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#64342 - 02/27/07 07:29 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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mm_half3, I'm futzing around now, with four of them! lol It's a royal pain! I can put up with it for a little while, however.

Again, thanks.

John

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#64343 - 03/02/07 08:37 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Okay, I got my new MX-500 today and I already love it. I had it learn the commands from all of my remotes so that I could customize what buttons did everything. It works just great with the 990 as much as I've done anything so far. It's very easy to program.

I do however have one problem with the MX-500 that I cannot rectify with my Microsoft MCE remote. This has to do with the four navigation arrow buttons that surround the "OK" button. On the MCE remote you use them to navigate menus, and this often requires depressing the same key multiple times to move in the same direction. When I try to do this with the MX-500, it only works the first time I press the key. Any further presses of the same key fail to do anything. The channel up/down button has the same problem. Can someone help me with this issue?

thank you,
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#64344 - 03/02/07 10:27 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I don't know if this will help, but it's worth a try - the following is something that I wrote back when I was using an MX-500:
Quote:
When I originally learned all of my remotes' commands into the MX-500, there were a few buttons whose behavior changed, most notably the volume control – buttons that would work continuously when pressed down on the original remote sent only a single brief signal when depressed on the MX-500, requiring the button to be pressed repeatedly to achieve the same effect as holding it down. This initially only affected volume control for the Model 950, and rather than find a solution I simply adapted my behavior to the quirk. When I got the Yamaha DVD-S1500 DVD player more than a year after getting the MX-500, however, I needed to find a way to fast forward and rewind with the MX-500 – the S1500's fast forward and rewind controls were tied in with the track forward/back buttons and required those buttons to be held down for a few seconds. This led me to a discovery: when learning a function to a button, hold down the button being taught until the MX-500 is done. This will allow the MX-500 to send a continuous signal when the button is held down, which is very handy for large scale volume adjustments and is essential for making the S1500 fast forward and rewind. On some previous learning remotes I've found that this technique would make fine control (like slight volume control changes) nearly impossible, but the MX-500 is much better behaved and has not exhibited any control problems on buttons learned in this manner.
That had more to do with buttons sending continuous data, but it may also help with the ussie you are running into.
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#64345 - 03/05/07 12:54 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I tried learning the MCE functions as you suggested gonk, by holding the key longer on it while the MX-500 learned. It didn't take long for it to indicate good. However, it still only works on first press. Very frustrating. I may try some other things, but not holding much hope. frown

It seems like it has more to do with MCE than MX-500. I noticed that the MCE remote will send a continual signal as long as you have the key pressed causing menus to scroll on screen. Likewise, you can raise and lower the volume in the same way with the MCE remote.

thanks,
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#64346 - 03/05/07 09:17 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Dr_JB,

I received my MX-850 last week and quickly 'programmed' it Sunday morning. Except for the Oppo, I learned each necessary button on all the remotes to the MX-850. A couple of buttons had to be re-learned but the entire setup took no more than a couple of hours. I haven't created any macros as yet, but I will. (for the Oppo 981 I used the 970 code which seems to work okay so far)

I've tried to refrain from using the word 'program' because I don't want to use a word that will possibly scare someone away from using a universal remote like the MX. There is no real programming involved. You simply use the software that's already been created. Programming created the software. There's little more involved than plugging values in an Excel sheet. If your remote is not in the database it becomes a simple button pushing exercise. The manual supplied by my vendor was easy to follow and supplied plenty of examples.

There's a vendor on ebay that will sell you a MX-850 and give you access to the software. For $200 you can rid yourself of all that remote clutter. No doubt you'll soon be creating macros. It's easy and it's fun.
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#64347 - 03/05/07 09:36 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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BobZoom, you might want to check out my 981HD review - specifically the 981HD device file, which includes discrete "power on" and "power off" codes for the 981HD. I don't know if the 970 code in the database will include these, but if it doesn't you can grab them from that file. It's great for macros. The "OPPO" button on my main screen runs a macro that sets the 990 to the DVD input, makes sure the TV is on its DVI input, and makes sure the 981HD is powered up. My "shut down" macros all include a command to turn the 981HD off, as well. smile
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#64348 - 03/05/07 04:14 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Gonk, a couple of weeks ago I quickly printed and read your Oppo 981 review but missed your download. I'm going to read it again and download and examine your macro.

Selecting the HDMI input on my TV requires several steps to select the Video 6 input. One button press access the menu but several button presses are required to select the correct input. The number of presses depends on the input presently being used. The component inputs from the cable box are Video 5. (Unfortunately, the component inputs cannot feed the DVI output.) And then there's the antenna input I'm using until Comcast comes up with more HD cable boxes. I've started playing with a macro to turn on everything, select the HDMI input on the TV, 7.1 audio and the DVI input on the 990, and finally open the tray on the Oppo. I suppose I'll have to insert the disc manually. Hmm...maybe that Sony robot dog could be programmed...

I'm learning.
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#64349 - 03/05/07 04:27 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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If you haven't done so already, you might want to poke around at Remote Central to see if discrete inputs codes exist for your TV. My TV's remote lacks discrete input commands, but I found some info online and was able to access "secret" discrete codes using a cheap Radio Shack remote that I had lying around (which I then used to train my MX-500, back before I had the MX-700). It allows me to create macros that include a command for the TV like "Component2" or "DVI" rather than trying to find a way to cope with a list of options from a single button.
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#64350 - 03/07/07 10:52 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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BobZoom,

thanks for the info and feedback. I'm still manipulating the four remotes. My system still requires a speaker rebuild, a center and either an Oppo or HD-DVD player purchases. So, I'm thinking the remote purchase should be the last one. For now, I'm going to concentrate on these things. In the mean time, I may also purchase a pair of headphones, so I can enjoy the surround sound experience.

Glad you're enjoying your MX-850 ... it appears to be a nice unit and from what you're saying, a powerful one, as well.

Again, thanks!

John

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#64351 - 03/09/07 09:17 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Gonk, no luck at Remote Central with codes for my TV. However, you've pointed me to a lot of ideas for creating macros and maybe even finding a way to get to Video5 and Video6 directly. Thanks!
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#64352 - 03/10/07 05:21 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
BobZoom Offline
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Gonk,

I located a download that has discrete codes for the video inputs on my Sony TV at the JP1 web site. Where I lack knowledge is how to transform that download into something usable for the MX-850. Do I need to purchase a remote of some kind that can accept this information and then use that remote to train the MX-850? I'd be willing to do this if it was a cheap out.
I'm feeling so foolish for letting myself get out of the home theater loop for so long. I'm very fortunate to have stumbled into this forum where everyone tries to be helpful.
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#64353 - 03/10/07 08:42 PM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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That's how I found my TV's discrete codes. I describe the process of getting those codes in my TV review . Basically, if you have or want to get a cheap remote from Radio Shack (like perhaps this one - the one I have is no longer listed because it's about six or seven years old) you can program the codes straight on to individual buttons and then learn the commands to your MX-850. If you have a link to the download, I could give it a try with my old remote and toss them in an MX-700 file.
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#64354 - 03/11/07 12:21 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
BobZoom Offline
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Here's the download link to the JP1 site...

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=3835

No doubt a lot of work went into compiling this info. The codes I'm mainly after are the video inputs...Video 5 and Video 6 specifically. I suppose at some point I might want the other HDMI input...Video 7.

Thanks, gonk, for offering your assistance.

Bob
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#64355 - 03/11/07 12:42 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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I realized when you posted the link that you were talking about a JP1 config file, and since I don't have a JP1 serial cable I can't do anything with it. I did go looking for ways to import JP1 files into the MX editor somehow, and in the process came across some other information.

First, I found some codes that might work with the technique I used for my Zenith ( advanced codes ) using the codes for TV device 0000 . Then I came across some references to discrete codes for Pronto remotes. Since the MX Editor can read Pronto config files, I hit Remote Central and found this file . You can download that file and then view it using the Universal Browser in MX Editor, at which point you can simply drag commands from the Pronto file onto buttons on your MX-850. Under "Home" there are several listings for "Panel" - the second one includes discrete video input codes, and the third includes several possible discrete power on and off codes. You may need to experiment a bit for Video7 and the discrete on/off commands, but there's only one Video5 and one Video6 listed so those should be straightforward.
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#64356 - 03/11/07 10:36 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
BobZoom Offline
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Registered: 01/29/07
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Loc: near Chicago
Whoa...that was fast.

I had already downloaded that file but didn't realize I could open and use it with the Universal Browser. I was trying to open it with the main program. Thanks for teaching an old dog another new trick. I don't even need a treat.

The result is fantastic. I now have 3 pages of TV buttons. And macro creation has become much easier. I'm lovin' this remote more and more every day.

Thanks again, gonk.

Bob
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#64357 - 03/11/07 11:04 AM Re: Universal Remote MX-500 and 990
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Yeah, discrete codes are great stuff when used with a remote like the MX's. Glad you were able to get some from the Pronto file.
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