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#63824 - 02/01/07 08:37 PM Too Big!
Luvthekeys Offline
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Registered: 06/28/03
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Loc: Placida, Florida
I really like the Outlaws and would have purchased the 990 except for the fact it is too *&^%ing big. I would have had to drastically modify my equipment rack to fit it in and I am not prepared to do that.

I checked out the Emotiva DMC-1 too, However after considertion of what it offered I decided to wait to see what Outlaw might do in the next incaration of thier Pre-Pro.

I will also wait to see that Sherwood-Newcastle will do with their upcoming Pre-Pro.

Hopefully I am making the right choice and the next version of the Outlaw Prepro will be worth waiting for.

Peace, LTK

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#63825 - 02/01/07 09:36 PM Re: Too Big!
psyprof1 Offline
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Registered: 09/10/05
Posts: 443
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
Re the 990's size, I too wish it were a tad smaller, especially in depth with balanced audio output and VMI input cables. But the Sherwood Newcastle P965 is exactly the same size - not surprising.

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#63826 - 02/03/07 05:32 PM Re: Too Big!
UMtiger Offline
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Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 59
Loc: Memphis, TN
Yes, I too had to battle the size issue when looking for a new cabinet to house the components. I still had to cut out a small hole in the back, but it has been worth it all for the performance I have enjoyed.
UMtiger

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#63827 - 02/06/07 10:00 PM Re: Too Big!
zod Offline
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Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 32
The DACs are to die for!

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#63828 - 02/07/07 12:02 PM Re: Too Big!
Lonster Offline
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Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 72
Loc: Eureka CA.
I hope you have a very comfortable chair, 'cause it may be a very looooong wait :-).
The 990 is this size for a number of reasons, one being the ability to make so many conections. I don't see Outlaw changing this product anytime soon.

Lonster
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#63829 - 02/07/07 06:52 PM Re: Too Big!
Arky Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
I searched long & hard for a rack, I finally found one at Circuit City of all places. It accomodates larger units at 21"W x 23"D. The maker is Gusdorf, $199 & seems pretty sturdy. I would add pic if I knew how.
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#63830 - 02/12/07 05:11 PM Re: Too Big!
da88 Offline
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Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 14
Loc: Carterville, IL
I don't use a rack, but so far my IKEA TV stand handles it very well. Think I paid about 150.00.
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#63831 - 02/12/07 08:29 PM Re: Too Big!
AARONMADLER Offline
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Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 169
Loc: Needham, MA
Arky,

Right click in the address bar, left click and copy and left click where you want to be and right click and paste.


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Gusdorf-A...roductDetail.do
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#63832 - 02/12/07 08:37 PM Re: Too Big!
GC Offline
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Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 36
I picked my furniture to fit the 990, so I don't have the same problems...

I went with Salamander Synergy, with the extended back panel, and everything fits great.

See this thread:

http://ubb.outlawaudio.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/34/t/001076.html

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#63833 - 02/12/07 09:04 PM Re: Too Big!
AARONMADLER Offline
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Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 169
Loc: Needham, MA
Arky, I inquired, but I can't figure out what the weight limit is for that piece of furniture. Please let me know.

Thank you,

Aaron
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#63834 - 02/14/07 09:54 PM Re: Too Big!
Arky Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
AAron sent you a pm I think.
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#63835 - 02/14/07 10:13 PM Re: Too Big!
Arky Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
How do I post a pic stored on my pc?
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Dish vip 622; Panny 50PX75U; H/K 7200
Klipsch RF-7,RC-7,Cornwalls,Cornscala
HeresyII,Heresy; SVS 2039pc+; Sonic Super T

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#63836 - 02/14/07 10:34 PM Re: Too Big!
Arky Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
Bear with me, trying to learn. I'll post a pic with my plasma on top if I can figure how.
http://ubb.outlawaudio.com/cgi-local/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?/ubb/get_topic/f/34/t/001152.html#000010
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Outlaw 990/7500; QSC 2402; Sony dvd;
Dish vip 622; Panny 50PX75U; H/K 7200
Klipsch RF-7,RC-7,Cornwalls,Cornscala
HeresyII,Heresy; SVS 2039pc+; Sonic Super T

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#63837 - 02/14/07 10:58 PM Re: Too Big!
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
You need to get it hosted online first. There are sites like flickr.com or you can send me the file and I'll host it along with some other miscellaneous forum pics (check your PM for my e-mail).
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#63838 - 02/14/07 11:32 PM Re: Too Big!
Arky Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
Reply sent
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Dish vip 622; Panny 50PX75U; H/K 7200
Klipsch RF-7,RC-7,Cornwalls,Cornscala
HeresyII,Heresy; SVS 2039pc+; Sonic Super T

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#63839 - 02/14/07 11:58 PM Re: Too Big!
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
I've updated my Outlaw Pictures page with a section for Arky (you can jump to it here or just go to " Pictures " in my sig and peruse the whole page). To make life even easier, though, here are the two pictures if his setup:


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#63840 - 02/15/07 01:10 AM Re: Too Big!
Arky Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
Thanks gonk. I never could figure how to get that pic up for Aaron.
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Outlaw 990/7500; QSC 2402; Sony dvd;
Dish vip 622; Panny 50PX75U; H/K 7200
Klipsch RF-7,RC-7,Cornwalls,Cornscala
HeresyII,Heresy; SVS 2039pc+; Sonic Super T

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#63841 - 02/15/07 11:01 AM Re: Too Big!
getech Offline
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Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 38
Loc: Oakland, CA
Quote:
Originally posted by Luvthekeys:
I really like the Outlaws and would have purchased the 990 except for the fact it is too *&^%ing big. I would have had to drastically modify my equipment rack to fit it in and I am not prepared to do that.

I checked out the Emotiva DMC-1 too, However after considertion of what it offered I decided to wait to see what Outlaw might do in the next incaration of thier Pre-Pro.

I will also wait to see that Sherwood-Newcastle will do with their upcoming Pre-Pro.

Hopefully I am making the right choice and the next version of the Outlaw Prepro will be worth waiting for.

Peace, LTK
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#63842 - 02/15/07 11:08 AM Re: Too Big!
psyprof1 Offline
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Registered: 09/10/05
Posts: 443
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
As I responded to your first message: the Outlaw 990 and the Sherwood Newcastle P965 are built on the same chassis and exactly the same size. Only the Outlaws know if that relationship will change with the next models of each. Generally more insides aren't compatible with smaller outsides.

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#63843 - 02/15/07 11:33 AM Re: Too Big!
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Psyprof1's got a good point. The R-972 receiver that Sherwood showed at CES last month looked far from petite - in fact, it looked a whole lot like the R-965 / P-965 platform that Outlaw used as the basis for the Model 990. Barring a major change (which would seem highly unlikely), I'd expect to see both the R-972 and the un-announced but almost inevitable P-972 be the same 7.75" height as the 965 platform.

There's one more wrinkle in our theorizing, of course: there's nothing definitive to say that Outlaw will return to the same well for a successor to the 990. If a 990 successor was built by Etronics and based on the 972 platform, then we could reasonably expect the same beast of a cabinet. On the other hand, they could develop a completely separate product (either with Etronics or with some other manufacturing partner - Eastech, perhaps), at which point it's anyone's guess what the unit would look like. If balanced pre-amp outputs remain (which I'd expect to be the case, considering the presence of balanced inputs on their top-line amps), we can just about count on something at least six inches tall no matter what they do: the Anthem processors measure just under six inches tall, the Sunfire Theater Grand platform (also seen from Emotiva as the DMC-1) is right at six inches, and the balanced version of the Lexicon MC-12 is 6.75" tall (an inch shorter than the Sherwood/990).
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#63844 - 02/16/07 12:35 AM Re: Too Big!
Davin Offline
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Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 34
Loc: Wisconsin
Build your own. I put this together for less than 200 dollars with parts from home depot. If anyone wants plans for it Email me
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#63845 - 02/16/07 05:28 AM Re: Too Big!
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 8
Loc: NE Louisiana/Currently Ohio
Thats funny seeing that bottle of asprin on the speaker, LOL.
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