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#63595 - 01/14/07 09:01 PM Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
bmackrell Offline
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I've been messing with my new Toshiba HD-XA2 DVD player all day and it's awesome with the exception of using the Analog audio outputs. I can get audio using the Optical input on the 990 but when I try using the analog inputs I don't get any audio. I've messed around with all the settings on the 990 and the audio setup on the XA2 but I got nothing.

I've read through all the posts here related to the HD-DVD players and tried everything I've seen.

Anybody have any thoughts or other ways to test it? I can't imagine it's broken. it has to be a setting issue on the 990 side or the XA2 side.

For now I'll keep using optical.

Regards,

billmac
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#63596 - 01/14/07 10:31 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
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Just to cover all the bases, the first step would be to go to the 990 and set the 7.1 Direct input to use the XA2's video connection (assuming you are using the 990's video switching for the XA2) and to then select the 7.1 Direct input ("7.1 D") button on the 990's remote. Check those out and let us know if there's still a problem - there may be something funny in the XA2.
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#63597 - 01/14/07 11:08 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
bmackrell Offline
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OK that worked! Gonk, you are the man,.. the late night man.

Maybe I wasn't exactly clear on how the 990 needed to be configured even though I've been using it for a few months. After I saw your reply I entered the OSD menu and traversed to the "7.1 Direct" input and enabled the DVI input the XA2 is connected to (DVI_2), and WA-LA... it worked.

here's the way I have my system setup:

I have the DVD input configured to my Oppo DVD using DVI_1 and optical.

I have the Video_1 input configured to my HD cable box using component and optical.

I have the Video_2 input configured to my Xbox360 using component and optical.

What I had been doing is configuring the next available slot, Video_3 to Video = DVI_2 and Audio = analog. I had assumed that analog meant 7.1 direct analog. I guess not. is that 2 channel?

When it's working in 7.1 mode there seems to be no control of surround sound processing. I thought I read you could still control what DTS mode is being applied. So in 7.1 mode what processing will take place?

Thanks again,

billmac
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#63598 - 01/14/07 11:25 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
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Analog for Video3 is Video3's stereo analog input. You can use Video3 with DVI2 and a digital input for watching SD DVD's, but you'll need to select 7.1 Direct for the multichannel analog. Video3 with a digital audio source would also work with the XA2's ability to create a high-bitrate DTS digital signal from HD-DVD's Dolby Digital Plus (and I think from Dolby TrueHD).

The 7.1 Direct input does not support additional surround processing because in theory you have a 7.1 source - there's no processing to do, since all the speakers are already in the mix. In many cases, of course, there's only 5.1, but there's no way to tell that since the signals are analog.
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#63599 - 01/14/07 11:33 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
bmackrell Offline
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so are you saying I should/can continue to use my customized video3 input from DVI_2 and Optical 4 and play with DTS processing?

I guess I'll find a few HD-DVDs that are utilizing Dolby Digital Plus or TrueHD and compare the results between the two.

thanks again.

billmac
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#63600 - 01/15/07 12:13 AM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
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I think you'll get better results with the multichannel analog when watching HD-DVD's - I was just saying that it would work to use Video3 and the optical input. smile
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#63601 - 01/15/07 12:31 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
bmackrell Offline
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When reading through some of the other HD-DVD threads here I've seen a few folks taking the 5.1 analog out from their A2s and splitting the surround channels to create the remaining two rear surrounds, filling out the 7.1 analog inputs on the 990.

Can anyone comment on how that sounds? Is that essentially what dolby PLII does anyway ??

Lots to learn.

billmac
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#63602 - 01/15/07 01:52 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
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That is not what Pro Logic IIx does, but I've also heard of folks doing it with apparently fairly decent results. I thought about trying it when I was re-wiring to hook up my Oppo 981HD, but never got around to it.
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#63603 - 01/15/07 11:51 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
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Would't you get comb filtering doing that with the surrounds or would it not really matter in that application?
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#63604 - 01/25/07 01:45 PM Re: Can't get 5.1 Audio from HD-DVD XA2
Scott Gammans Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by bmackrell:
I've seen a few folks taking the 5.1 analog out from their A2s and splitting the surround channels to create the remaining two rear surrounds, filling out the 7.1 analog inputs on the 990.

Can anyone comment on how that sounds?
Bill, did you ever give this a try? I've also got the HD-XA2 and I would really rather use the 7.1 direct analog inputs instead of a toslink connection.

(Of course, what I would REALLY rather have is an HD-DVD player with 7.1 analog outputs like my new Panasonic DMP-BD10, but until such a device appears, this seems to be the only way to get 5.1 of the channels of high-rez audio out of my HD-DVD discs. Either that, or chuck my beloved Outlaw 990 for an HDMI-equipped preamp.)
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