#62731 - 11/26/06 08:41 AM
Re: Gonk...I want to try one more time...
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#62732 - 11/26/06 11:19 AM
Re: Gonk...I want to try one more time...
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Gunslinger
Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
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My dvd & dish receiver run into the 990 then out to my Samsung plasma via svideo (will be via dvi/hdmi Monday). I get OSD on all sources without changing any input on the tv remote.
At one point I also had a coax running (from the out to tv jack) on the dish receiver to one of the antenna inputs on the plasma. In this configuration I did not get the OSD for the dish source, only the dvd source. I have no idea why.
My thought is the problem lies within a connection or source input at the Samsung. I may have missed it but has he tried running all sources thru the 990 then out? Are there any disadvantages of doing this?
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#62734 - 11/26/06 12:11 PM
Re: Gonk...I want to try one more time...
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Gunslinger
Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Central Ark
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Yes i'll keep the s-vid in place. When I had the coax connected that was just an additional connection, s-vid from the dish was still ran into the 990. Did the coax override the s-vid?
I'm still confused why he can't run it all thru the 990 then s-vid to plasma for the OSD.
I hope I don't have the same problem. Thanks
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#62736 - 12/04/06 09:21 PM
Re: Gonk...I want to try one more time...
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 128
Loc: Longmont, Colorado
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Hi there,
Been a while since I've been around. But I'll chime in here -- I had a very similar problem. The video coming from my 990 was flaky. I never switched through it, so the only reason I had it hooked up to the TV was for the OSD. I did component and S-video. I also used those same connections to another TV. It would come and go and "roll" on the screen like old-timey bad reception. Sometimes it would not work at all. I tried different cables. Always the same result.
Finally, Steve sent me another 990, and I never had another problem with the OSD at all. So I can tell you first hand that this kind of thing is possible. Hey, all types of problems and failures are *possible* with a machine like this.
Of course, now I have the intermittent background noise in "upsample" mode, but that's another story.
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#62737 - 12/08/06 05:19 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 54
Loc: Madison, MS
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Originally posted by gonk: To run through all the scenarios, look at the image below and we'll go from left to right...
You can connect this output to the HDTV, but if the HDTV can't accept 480i on the component input then you will not see the 990's menu, transcoded composite video inputs, transcoded s-video inputs, or any 480i component video sources. Therefore, if you make this connection, set the HDTV to the appropriate component input, switch the 990 to a video input (DVD or Video1 through Video5), and don't get an onscreen menu when you press the MENU button to the right of the zero on the 990's remote, we should move on to our other two options... Composite: You can connect the composite monitor output to a composite video input on the display, but you will only get the onscreen menu and any composite or s-video inputs through this connection. If the component didn't work, you can try this one to see if there's an issue with 480i to your TV's component input. Make the connection (from the marked monitor output in the middle of the picture above to a composite input in the TV), switch the TV to that input, switch the 990 to a video input (let's use Video5 just to get one that should be clear of any higher video connections), and press the MENU button next to zero on the remote. Two things should have happened. First, the 990 should have popped up a little message when you changed inputs to Video5 (assuming you haven't disabled OSD on that input) saying "Video5" and a few other things. Second, the MENU command should pull up the on-screen menu.S-Video: For what we're doing, s-video and composite are going to be treated exactly the same way - and if one works, so should the other.Cvinfig makes a good point at the end of his post. You need to make sure the TV is set up to actually use the inputs you are connecting to - if you've disabled the composite or s-video so you don't have to skip through them when changing inputs, you would need to re-enable them for this test at least. [/b] Gonk, It has been a while, but I have been very busy and traveling. I am about to start this process again, tonight. I just hooked up a composite video cable to the 990 in the video monitor out and connected to the Samsung video input. I used the source button on the tv remote and got the tv to the video channel. I pressed the menu buton on the 990 and the menu button on the 990 remote. On the Samsung I get a "searching for signal" message and no menu. Samsung has serviced the tv and found no prextoblems. Next: Hooked up a component video the same way. No menu. Samsung is "searching for signal" BTW, this is how I hooked it up out of the box and it worked. Next: S vidieo, same song same dance. Hmmmmm! Noticed below that Otto was having same problems and Outlaw sent him a new box.
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#62739 - 12/08/06 08:07 PM
Re: Gonk...I want to try one more time...
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 54
Loc: Madison, MS
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Originally posted by gonk: If those tests didn't work, I'd recommend a call to Outlaw because the 990 seems to be the most likely culprit. They might suggest a system reset (holding down "SETUP" and "MENU" at the same time on the front panel) or some other trick to seeif there's something odd going on with the software, but short of something like that it sounds like you'll need to get it swapped out. Yea, thank for all your help. I have done the system reset thing.
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#62740 - 12/13/06 01:38 PM
Re: Gonk...I want to try one more time...
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 79
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Miscanthus,
My 2 cents, if you want the cleanest picture possible, run video from Cable box to TV and don't go to anything in-between if possible. Higher the connection points the higher the possibility of interference. If your doing it to get the OSD, run a line from the 990 to the TV using s-Video or something like that, and do a Picutre in Picture to see it.
I have not read all the thread and so you might have a good reason. I'm a nut and I want the best picture possible.
Good Luck...!
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