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#61948 - 09/10/06 10:24 AM 990 question
Rambilt Offline
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Does the 990 have a delay locking or losing the signal between music or the start of the music like the 950? Because my 950 takes a couple of seconds to lock on the signal so it always kind of skip the very beginning of the song... Was there a fix to this problem? Thinking of upgrading. Thanks guys!
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#61949 - 09/10/06 10:51 AM Re: 990 question
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The 990's signal acquisition time is substantially faster than the 950. I'd say that the signal acquisition time is in the neighborhood of 0.25s to 0.5s while I think I used to estimate the 950's acquisition time at around 1.5s.
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#61950 - 09/10/06 06:11 PM Re: 990 question
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Originally posted by gonk:
The 990's signal acquisition time is substantially faster than the 950. I'd say that the signal acquisition time is in the neighborhood of 0.25s to 0.5s while I think I used to estimate the 950's acquisition time at around 1.5s.
The .25s to .5s delay, does it make significant impact to the beginning of the song/music? Because I hate that about the 950!.. BTW, Gonk as usual you are very helpful.. Thank you very much for your response..
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#61951 - 09/10/06 06:28 PM Re: 990 question
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I've not found it to impact music. For what it's worth, my wife also found the 950's delay very objectionable (we actually used analog audio from the digital cable box for this very reason, because the delay for signal acquisition when changing channels drove her nuts) and she's not noticed the 990's delay.
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#61952 - 09/11/06 11:20 AM Re: 990 question
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I found it to impact music. When I had the CD player connected digitally to the 990 I would miss the first note or 2 of the fist track on each CD. I tried 4 different players. I ended up connecting the CD player via analog. The delay I get when changing channels on the satellite receiver doesn’t bother me. I’m easily bothered by things like that so it must not be too bad.
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#61953 - 09/11/06 04:20 PM Re: 990 question
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I find it on music, too, with both DVD and CD players connected digitally. It generally isn't too annoying, and if I know I will be concerned about the impact on a particular piece, I let the 990 acquire the signal then skip back to the start of the track.

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#61954 - 09/11/06 09:59 PM Re: 990 question
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Originally posted by Daryl:
I found it to impact music. When I had the CD player connected digitally to the 990 I would miss the first note or 2 of the fist track on each CD. I tried 4 different players. I ended up connecting the CD player via analog. The delay I get when changing channels on the satellite receiver doesn’t bother me. I’m easily bothered by things like that so it must not be too bad.
I guess I'm going to have to wait, keep my 950 until they fix the signal acquisition delay... Thanks for your reply...
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#61955 - 09/11/06 10:04 PM Re: 990 question
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Originally posted by RCF051:
I find it on music, too, with both DVD and CD players connected digitally. It generally isn't too annoying, and if I know I will be concerned about the impact on a particular piece, I let the 990 acquire the signal then skip back to the start of the track.
I do exactly the same thing with my 950. I kind of learned to live with it. I hate it when I have to demo my system to my friends and the first thing they notice is the cd player sounds like it skips or jumps the first two notes of the song.
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#61956 - 09/12/06 01:41 AM Re: 990 question
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I've noted it and don't like it at all. There are plenty of classical pieces that are hurt by the loss of the first note - try the Beethoven 3rd ("Eroica") Symphony with nothing left of the first of those two opening chords execpt the fade. That's amputation. Sorry but I think that little feature is way overdue for a fix. The MSB DAC I used before I got the 990 didn't do that - why does the 990 have to?

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#61957 - 09/12/06 06:17 AM Re: 990 question
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Originally posted by psyprof1:
I've noted it and don't like it at all. There are plenty of classical pieces that are hurt by the loss of the first note - try the Beethoven 3rd ("Eroica") Symphony with nothing left of the first of those two opening chords execpt the fade. That's amputation. Sorry but I think that little feature is way overdue for a fix. The MSB DAC I used before I got the 990 didn't do that - why does the 990 have to?
There's probably not enough complaints.. I am with you about the amputation of the sound. I have a 300CD Sony Disc player that I play in random all the time. Every single music is amputated!!! It really sucks!!!!
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