#60936 - 06/20/06 04:12 PM
OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 16
Loc: Charlotte
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Not sure if anyone else out there may have encountered this one or not so here goes......
In getting my Oppo Digital DVD & 990 & Sony KD960XBR TV set up via DVI/HDMI cables I have noticed that Sony has designated Video Input 7 for HDMI.
The 990 can only output the OSD in analog. Since the DVI input does not seem to have a corresponding analog output associated with it, how can I get the OSD to appear on Video Input 7? (or get ALL my inputs to go through VI 7?!)
Now it's possible that I just have my head up my butt but I have found this to be rather annoying. To say nothing of having to change the TV input too. Does anyone know of a workaround for this? I realize it's Sony's fault too but wondered if anyone else has encountered this and what your solution was?
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#60937 - 06/20/06 04:24 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/20/02
Posts: 194
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Maybe I'm missing what you are asking, but it looks like you answered your own question when you said "The 990 can only output the OSD in analog" which is correct. You will need to hook up one of the analog outputs of the 990 to the Sony to see the OSD. The DVI jacks on the 990 are just a switch nothing more.
In fact if the Oppo is your only digital output device I'd recommend you not connect it through the 990.
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#60938 - 06/20/06 04:31 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Desperado
Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
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Digital video switching (DVI/HDMI) is still developing, so the video processing tools to transcode analog video sources (composite, s-video, and component) to digital (DVI/HDMI video) without degrading the image are rare and costly. (Some new receivers are offering it, although I don't know how transparent the transcoding is, and of course Anthem's D2 and AVM50 have a video scaler that will handle it - but the cost of the addition of the scaler costs about as much as an entire 990.) As a result, the 990 is not capable of transcoding analog video to the DVI output - including the OSD menu data. To view the 990's menus and any analog video sources, you will need an analog video connection to the display. If all you want is the OSD menu, you can get by with just a composite or s-video connection. If you have any component video sources, you'll need to run component video from the 990's monitor output - at which point you can use that component connection for all video sources except the OPPO.
Does that help? Another suggestion that might help - many HDTV's will allow you to "turn off" inputs that you aren't using, which would allow you to set the TV up to only offer the component input and HDMI input as choices.
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#60939 - 06/20/06 04:32 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 16
Loc: Charlotte
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I have an S video cable as the monitor cable to the TV. The question is if there is a corresponding analog output for the DVI? The OSD works fine for the satellite, vcr, dvd recorder, cd, etc.....on Video 1. When watching the Oppo dvd and then wanting to make any changes to the settings via the OSD, I have to change the TV input back to Video 1 because there is no output for the OSD to the TV on Video 7. Does that make anymore sense?
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#60940 - 06/20/06 04:35 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 16
Loc: Charlotte
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Oops! Now I think I've answered my question! I just need to run an S video cable on the VD output I have the Oppo on and I'll be fine.
Now in order to keep from switching back and forth on the TV inputs I suppose I could simply run everything into VD7 if it will accept both HDMI and standard inputs eh?
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#60941 - 06/20/06 04:38 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/20/02
Posts: 194
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Are you talking about the Oppo OSD or the 990 OSD?
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#60942 - 06/20/06 04:39 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/20/02
Posts: 194
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I don't see anyway to get around the switching on the Sony.
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#60944 - 06/20/06 05:08 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 16
Loc: Charlotte
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DVD yes, Sat no. As soon as I get away from being too cheap to get a HD Tivo for the Sat then I can do that. Until then I still get those signals for free OTA. It just sucks to have to have a video switching device like the 990 and still have to change the TV inputs.
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#60946 - 06/20/06 06:47 PM
Re: OSD/DVI/HDMI On Alternate Inputs
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 215
Loc: Big D, Tx
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Quagh, I remember a few other members discussing the OSD and employing projectors. The gunslingers did not like the idea of running a s-video cable to the projector just for OSD for the 990. The solution was to hook up a cheap black and white 5" (i beleive) tv to view the OSD. Basically use the 5" B&W for the OSD only.
This is an alternative idea/thought........
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