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#59834 - 05/20/06 08:03 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Skyblazer Offline
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Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
is the sample rate not viewable currently? If it is.. i can't find it anywhere. Not that that's a huge deal.. but when the web page lists this as a feature.. and I can't find it.. was it ommited in place for another feature instead?

AvFan, I'm not sure what you mean by "speaker trim unique to each input"? does that mean that I can set my fronts to large for 5.1 and then small fronts for 2 channel listening?
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#59835 - 05/20/06 09:58 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
Skyblazer,

You've described a cool feature, but I was referring to the speaker calibration setup. Sorry for the confusion. I have noticed that I when I listen to 2 channel music I like different settings for the right speaker than determined by the test tones for my 5.1 setup. The difference is consistently 2 or 3db. I kept reaching for an imaginary balance control when listening to music.

I'm listening to much more music than watching movies so I left the speaker calibration set for 2 channel music and it has not been distracting when watching movies. The ability to set different speaker calibrations for different inputs would solve the difference I've observed and I'd get all speakers working appropriately for each input type.
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#59836 - 05/21/06 08:32 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
cappra Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 53
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
I'm not clear on the point of why the speaker calibration would be any different from the two channel setup (R/L) to 5.1 or any other mode! Maybe the level would be different, but if you set the channel calibration with a SPL meter and they are all at the same reference level, what does it matter?
If the sound field seems out of balance, wouldn't you raise the calibration level of either the right or left speaker to compensate for this? I have a left front speaker that has to be raised 2db more than the right one to match it in ouput, I don't know why, but all my speakers match in level, which would seem to be the most important thing.

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#59837 - 05/21/06 08:50 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
FAUguy Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 249
Loc: FL
Yea! Looks like it's up.
Since my 990 isn't here yet, who's going to try the upgrade first?
http://www.outlawaudio.com/support/990.html

Here's the new bass info:
Analog: http://www.outlawaudio.com/support/990_analog_bm.html
Digital: http://www.outlawaudio.com/support/990_digital_bm.html

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#59838 - 05/21/06 09:01 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Skyblazer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
i have noticed my right front speaker is always lower volume than my left.. i just attribute it to the right amp channel having a problem. I've had it serviced and set back to factory specs.. but one never knows. It's a Adcom GFA 5400
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CAL Alpha tube DAC
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#59839 - 05/21/06 09:15 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
FAUguy Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 249
Loc: FL
Before I sold all my stuff I had a 950 with an Adcom GFA-545II and 7400.
I never had a problem with any speaker being louder than another.
The 950 you could raise or lower the db for each channel. Doesn't the 990 do this?

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#59840 - 05/21/06 09:19 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Skyblazer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
FAU, yes the 990 you can do the same thing... i have mine raised on the right either +1 or +2 usually to balance out the fronts.
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Outlaw Audio 990 pre amp
Adire Audio sub (SVS 12.2 driver)
CAL Alpha tube DAC
Parasound P/HP-850 2 CH pre
Pioneer PL-530 TT
Polk Audio SDA 2B
NAD 2600A amp
Danger Boy here

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#59841 - 05/21/06 10:07 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Relentless Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 81
Loc: Chicago,IL
ok so now in bypass with analog inputs the crossover is not active on the main speakers.
if you use analog inputs and use the stereo setting will the outlaw DAC's manipulate the signal? if so the only way to use the DAC's in the CD player and have the speakers crossed over is to use a digital input and bypass setting?
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#59842 - 05/21/06 10:10 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Skyblazer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
I don't know Relentless. I'll wait till someone can explain it to me like i'm a 10 yr old. ha ha ha.

i don't quite understand that whole bass management thing.. and how this will "fix" the bass issue.

so i'm all ears guys.
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Outlaw Audio 990 pre amp
Adire Audio sub (SVS 12.2 driver)
CAL Alpha tube DAC
Parasound P/HP-850 2 CH pre
Pioneer PL-530 TT
Polk Audio SDA 2B
NAD 2600A amp
Danger Boy here

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#59843 - 05/21/06 10:12 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
In bypass with analog inputs, there is no crossover applied because the signal never enters the digital domain. If the mains are set to small, the 990 will make a summed copy of the left and right channels which will then be sent to the sub.

In stereo mode with analog inputs, the 990 converts the signal to digital, applied bass management, and converts the signal back to analog.

If you use a digital input to the 990, you are by definition not using the player's DAC. Bypass mode with a digital input still uses the digital input, leaving the player's DAC out of the equation. I'm not an expert on what digital input/bypass mode really skips and what it still passes through, but I know at least that much about it.
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