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#59824 - 05/18/06 04:16 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
FAUguy Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
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Loc: FL
I dont't even have my 990 yet!

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#59825 - 05/18/06 09:19 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
blaineh Offline
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Registered: 07/07/03
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I hope it allows me to xover my center to the mains at 160 hz, (maggie cc2 and 20r mains) as they are large for sure. And, I want to be able to send 80 and 100 hz from rears and surronds to the sub. That is how this is supposed to work, right? The multiple xover was one of the main reasons for buying this, thing is, I hope it is at least as good as the cheaper 970 (in that it has line by line xover)...
Of course I could slide along with my 2 ICBMs (one is magnapan version), but I am really hoping to put them up for sale soon...

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#59826 - 05/18/06 11:16 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
I don't know if they'll add 160Hz, but they've got 150Hz and 200Hz available. If you set the center to small and have a subwoofer in the system, I believe that the low-passed data will go to the subwoofer rather than the mains (even if the mains are set to large) - same for the side and rear surrounds.
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#59827 - 05/19/06 12:03 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Asx Offline
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Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 37
Loc: FL
Quote:
Originally posted by blaineh:
I hope it allows me to xover my center to the mains at 160 hz, (maggie cc2 and 20r mains) as they are large for sure.
Do you have two subwoofers located close to the main speakers? If not, you definetely don't want to go as high as 160Hz. Human ear starts detecting low frequency directionality above 80Hz, so at 160Hz you'll hear your subwoofer play nice and clean, but right there in the corner...

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#59828 - 05/19/06 07:25 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
blaineh Offline
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Registered: 07/07/03
Posts: 84
The CC2 center does not play below 160hz, and sounds really bad xovered right to a sub at so high a freq. However it does sound great xovered to the mains.
The mains go down to about 27hz on thier own, but they are tri amped w/ a external xover, w/ a pair of HSU TN1220s at 45hz. Right now, I use the ICBM magnapan version (doubles the xover freq for the center) set at 160, though 200 would work as well, in recombine mode. I run the bass signal from my mains xover into the ICBM, as well as center signal. The info above 160 goes to the center, and below gets mixed with the stereo bass info, and appears at the mains bass panel. No center info actually goes to the subs. I have a third sub just for rears and/or LFE.
What I would like is to have the 990 send the center bass to the large mains (I had a sony 90es that would do this), so the ICBM can be removed, and the tube subs will work along with the bass panels of the 20s.
Even better, but not absolutly needed, would be to have the surround/rears xovered to there own sub (at 80 and 100hz), and not go to the mains. Though they certainly would be xovered there as well. Of course now I have a extra unused sub. Hence the need for the 2nd ICBM that I want to remove from the mix.
BTW, I think today is the 19th! (pacing back and forth)

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#59829 - 05/19/06 05:23 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Scott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/10
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A quick update on the Model 990 software upgrade:

Work has been completed on the upgrade itself, and the performance is great. The software itself is fully tested and will bring you the following:

* A revised bass management system
* The ability to view lip sync delay time on the front panel display so that you may set the delay while using the DVI inputs or while viewing a 720p or 1080i component video input
* Ability to rename the audio, as well as video inputs in the OSD
* Other minor internal software adjustments

Unfortunately, while the software is done, a minor glitch has popped up in the process to download it. We're on the case and will have it available for you before the end of the weekend.

Sorry for the delay, but please bear with is just another few days. It's very much worth the wait!

Regards

The Outlaws

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#59830 - 05/19/06 05:27 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
tmdlp Offline
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Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 215
Loc: Big D, Tx
Scott,
Thanks for the update. cool
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#59831 - 05/19/06 05:32 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
gonk Offline
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Thanks for the status report, Scott!
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#59832 - 05/19/06 07:54 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
Good news on the update. One of the features several folks requested was the ability to set speaker trims unique to each input versus the current global settings. Scott did not mention this specific change. Do folks think it is a "minor software adjustment"?
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#59833 - 05/19/06 09:49 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
blaineh Offline
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Registered: 07/07/03
Posts: 84
I guess we will see how revised the BM is in a few days.
Hope we can get to the 7.1 direct from the frount panel, and not have the machine revert to PL2 everytime it is fed a PCM signal to DD then back to PCM (in this case it ALWAYS goes to PL2)

Of course, the 990 sounds great, and really performs on the balanced outputs. Otherwise it would have gone back before the 30 days. But I really hope at least these issues are fixed. It just makes me feel a little like the 990 software feature set was not though out as well as the 970. And some things about my 950 I liked a lot (like being able to see the signal type and sample rate) that the 990 doesn't do.
I say this because it sounds like they didn't give us these things that I/we had hoped/asked for. At least it wasn't listed. Anyhow, some revisions are sure better than none
Thanks for the update, I do appriciate the efforts of all involved.

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