#59884 - 05/23/06 05:14 PM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/05/05
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Loc: The Northcoast
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Is there a way to revert or reload the older version of the the firmware if you are not satisfied with the upgrade?
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#59885 - 05/23/06 06:23 PM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 7
Loc: SF Bay Area
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I don't yet have a 990, but am very seriously considering getting one. I think I have a simple question, but these bass management bugs are so complex, I'm having trouble knowing if my question is simple or not.
If I set my fronts and center to large and my surrounds to small and my sub to LFE, will I be happy with the 990's bass managment?
My criteria for happiness are: 1) movies sound right with the sub doing it's thing on explosions, passing jet planes, exhaling dinosaurs, etc., 2) when I switch to 2-channel stereo to listen to CDs, there is no sub, and 3) I don't have to continually reconfigure anything as I jump between DVDs, 2-channel stereo, 7-channel stereo, ProLogic IIx, etc.
Looking at the bass management matrices, I think I won't encounter any problems. But since I don't know precisely what was wrong with bass management before the upgrade and how things have changed now, I can't tell for sure.
Thanks for the input.
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#59887 - 05/23/06 08:02 PM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/27/05
Posts: 88
Loc: Tampa Fl
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Jeff I have Martin Logan mains and center, Spica TC50 side & rear and 2 LFM-1 subs. I set my mains to large everything else to small and subs to LFE. I have not notices any problems. With this setup the bass can be suttle to shake everything off the walls, it depends what you want. If I use the 990 for 2-channel music I use bypass which only uses the mains (I believe). The bass has never been a problem in having it over powering with any of the settings you are asking about. Even with all of the problems some people seem to be having. I would not hesitate to purchase a 990. I don't think you will be unhappy. Give it a try the worst that happens is you send it back at 30 day. But I doubt you will.
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#59888 - 05/23/06 09:56 PM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Desperado
Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 547
Loc: NJ/Beijing
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Oh my, the firmware upgrade has arrived. I guess that means they're passing out ice scrapers in the netherworld. 8-)
I'll have to give this a try.
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#59889 - 05/23/06 10:14 PM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 53
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
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I think the term large or small when selecting speaker size can be somewhat misleading. I think of the Rocket 750's as being a large speaker, but have set it as small and have the crossover at 60hz. AV123 as well recommends setting the speakers to small and using a 60 or 80hz crossover. This seems to work will for movies and multichannel music. For two channel, I would like to be able to set them as large , bypass the subwoofer and just use the left and right speakers.
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#59890 - 05/24/06 07:16 AM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/19/06
Posts: 11
Loc: ct
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With the new firmware, how are you guys handling prologic analog signals from a vhs? Does the sub setting l/r+sub work in this mode if front speakers are set to large? The matrix states in Dolby mode "Sm spkr bass + LR bass". Does this mean that even though the fronts are set to large, that anything below the crossover setting for the fronts also goes to the sub?
In other words:
Front: full range Sub: front (below crossover) + "small spkrs" below crossover.
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#59891 - 05/24/06 07:26 AM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Desperado
Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
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Analog sources that are processed with Pro Logic follow the same bass management logic as digital sources. That means that for large mains and the sub set to l/r+sub, the mains get a full range signal and the sub gets low frequency data from any small speakers plus the low frequency data from the fronts - exactly as you describe it. Even though the fronts are set to large, the sub gets low frequency data from those channels, as is intended for the subwoofer setting of L/R+Sub. Setting the subwoofer to LFE in that case would prevent this (the sub would only get low frequency data from small speakers in this case).
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#59892 - 05/24/06 08:08 AM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 240
Loc: The Northcoast
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Sorry for repeating my post but does anyone know if the older version of the firmware is available if you are not pleased with the new version? I have not installed the new version but would like to know what my options are if I do.
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#59893 - 05/24/06 08:20 AM
Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/19/06
Posts: 11
Loc: ct
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Ok Gonk that makes sense. Doesn't this solve the issue then for those guys with analog stereo, such as from a cd, that want some of the lower frequencies from large fronts passed off to the sub? This is of course assuming that there is little noticeable loss in the adc-dac conversion in the 990 when moving from the bypass mode to the stereo mode.
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