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#59994 - 06/16/06 06:29 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
CI Offline
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Registered: 06/14/04
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Loc: New City, New York, USA
Has anyone noticed that with the new firmware, that in addition to the inability to rename the 7.1 input, that the Tuner input also cannot be renamed (eg, to AM/FM, or something else)?

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#59995 - 06/16/06 07:53 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Yep - although I only mentioned the 7.1 Direct part in my review's update notes . I didn't think much about the tuner's name being fixed - you can't assign a digital input to the tuner, so it'll always be the tuner - but I did find it interesting that the 7.1 Direct's name wasn't editable.
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#59996 - 06/16/06 07:55 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Gunslinger

Registered: 06/14/04
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Loc: New City, New York, USA
Thanks Gonk for giving closure on this!

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#59997 - 06/16/06 10:48 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 249
Loc: FL
Quote:
Originally posted by gonk:

2. When the unit is in standby, hold down the "ENTER" button (middle of the navigation pad) and the "INPUT" button together. The unit will display the version number on the front panel for about 10 seconds. (And remember, don't press "ENTER" and "MENU" at once unless you want to reset the unit to factory defaults.)
I got my 990 today and I downloaded the newest S/W. I followed all the steps, but got about 5 "Device Restart" errors. (I am using USB).
It finally worked and did the master reset.
I checked the S/W ver on the front display and it says "3.11.04".
Does this mean that it did not install the 3.11.06?

Update: I just did the upgrade again. This time I got no "Device Restart" messages. After I got done, the FM tuner showed 87.50 like the directions said. I checked the S/W ver again, and still says 3.11.04.

Update 2: Ok nevermind. I was looking at the darn date the update was posted! So the update did go through oK.

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#59998 - 06/18/06 04:20 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
jrlouie Offline
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Registered: 03/05/06
Posts: 118
Loc: Missouri
I just did the upgrade. I write software for a living so I consider myself relatively good at such stuff. I got many many device restart errors. I used a USB cable. Suddenly, and I don't know why this time it worked versus others, after pushing the master on/off button and retrying the update, it worked. Pretty nerve-racking and agree that the software definitely needs to be more reliable. Maybe this time around I pushed the master on/off faster than before, who knows. I don't know if that could even make a difference.
I also just ran the auto-setup. I can guarantee my microphone is in the same exact position as before and the room has not changed. I too am getting the fronts-small surrounds-large error. Pretty annoying when a firmware updated introduces new issues.
Maybe Outlaw will make another firmware update to fix this issue. The auto-setup feature was something I really liked and was even a selling-point to me for the 990, now it's useless.

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#59999 - 06/19/06 11:02 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
Scott Offline
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It is very important to make sure the master power switch is powered "OFF" when switching the unit from "opr" to "srv" mode.

Also, if your surrounds are being recognized as "large", than the crossover setting is too high. If there is too much activity below the selected crossover point for an individual speaker, the auto setup system will inform you that that speaker is "large". The correct course of action is to lower the x-over setting before running the auto setup.

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#60000 - 06/19/06 11:34 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
jrlouie Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/05/06
Posts: 118
Loc: Missouri
Quote:
Originally posted by Scott:
Also, if your surrounds are being recognized as "large", than the crossover setting is too high. If there is too much activity below the selected crossover point for an individual speaker, the auto setup system will inform you that that speaker is "large". The correct course of action is to lower the x-over setting before running the auto setup.
Very interesting. Thanks for the info Scott! I will try this as soon as I get a chance. I had assumed that pre-existing crossover settings had no effect on the auto-setup process since my assumption was that the auto-setup was supposed to determine and set the best crossover setting itself.

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#60001 - 06/19/06 11:39 AM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
That's some handy info, Scott - I wonder if modifying the default crossovers to be 80Hz instead of 100Hz would help alleviate this for folks who jump straight to the auto setup without making a first pass through the speaker size/crossover screens.
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#60002 - 06/19/06 12:45 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
jrlouie Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/05/06
Posts: 118
Loc: Missouri
Cool, I am getting much better results now. No error messages. I just set all my speakers to large and then ran the auto-setup. Maybe the defaults should be set to start with the all speakers to large (or better yet don't use existing settings when re-running the auto-setup).
Oddly though, the delays are all correct in distance except the center. It is reading 15 feet for the left and right which is correct, but it is setting the center to 3 feet. Maybe I have some weird reflections going on or something. It didn't seem like it ever did this before. I'll keep experimenting to see if I can get the auto-set right.

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#60003 - 06/19/06 01:07 PM Re: 990 Firmware Upgrade
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
You might also check the polarity of the connections to the center channel - reflections shouldn't shave time off the sound, but I don't know what having the phase flipped might do. I wouldn't expect it to cause this, but off the top of my head I can't rule it out, either.
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