#59313 - 04/07/06 01:26 PM
Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/07/06
Posts: 101
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I'm not sure that this question pertains to the 990, but I'm here to find out.
I am planning on purchasing a Philips RC9800i (remote control) which allows streaming of audio files from one's computer through their audio system. In my quest for more information, I have come up short.
I understand that one must have a wireless network, but how exactly does the music get transmitted through the audio system? I read that a UPnP Media Adapter is necessary if the unit is not already compatible, but I can't find anymore information on this.
So my question is: How, if at all, can I stream music from my PC through my Pronto remote through the model 990?
I have called Philips and after talking with 2 people, I received no information. They couldn't even tell me if Outlaw products were in the database for the Pronto RC9800i.
Thanks for in advance for any insight.
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#59315 - 04/07/06 02:28 PM
Re: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/07/06
Posts: 101
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Thanks Gonk, I have been doing some more research and this is what I've found: I pictured the RC9800 working in a similar fashion as the Sonos units where, if my understanding is correct, the Sonos Controller (remote) streams music from the PC to a Sonos Zone Player which hooks up to the audio system. In my mind, I was looking for something similar to the Zone Player, which would hook up to the 990. I, however, was mistaken. It appears that the 9800 can do 2 things when it comes to transferring audio from a PC. First, it can play the music on the unit itself (there are speaker(s) on the actual remote). I'm sure the quality isn't very good, though. The other way it transfers audio is while it is in the charging dock and the dock is hardwired to the preamp/receiver. The following excerpt is from http://www.homecontrol.philips.com/index.cfm?id=844 : Simply by connecting an audio extension cable from the remote’s cradle to your audio system's amplifier. The RC9800i with its WiFi and UPnP technology allows you to first listen on the remote itself. When docked in the charging cradle, the audio will be outputted by connecting the audio extension cable from the cradle to the audio set. So I was wrong in thinking the remote would stream music to some third device that would hook up to the 990 - the 9800 would have to be sitting in its charging cradle which would be hardwired to the 990. So I guess I answered my own question. I know the audio quality wont be top notch coming from the remote's dock, but I think it will still be good for background entertainment. If anyone is interested in buying the remote, buy.com and costco.com have them for $325 and $350, respectively. I've read a fair number of reviews and have decided that this is probably the way I will go. Cheers.
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#59316 - 04/07/06 02:31 PM
Re: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Desperado
Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
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OK, UPnP is a communication protocol. To view pictures, listen to music, or watch videos that are stored on your PC, you need a UPnP-compliant media adapter - the remote itself doesn't pass any data, but just acts as a control for the data passing from PC to media adapter. You can view pictures from your PC on the 9800i's screen if you have the right UPnP software installed on the computer, but that's about it. I don't think the 9800i is compatible with standard Pronto config files, so the files on this page may not help, but the 9800i does support learning so that you can teach it the 990's commands. Basically, it sounds to me like 9800i users can buy a media adapter that support UPnP and make use of a nifty interface on the remote for selecting data to play or view. Devices of this type seem a bit rare - Philips' Streamium is one such device. Of course, folks who don't have the 9800i can achieve much the same thing with media players such as the Slim Devices Squeezebox or the Roku Labs Soundbridge or Photobridge.
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#59317 - 04/07/06 02:46 PM
Re: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 240
Loc: The Northcoast
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You should take a serious look at the Slim Devices Squeezebox that gonk posted a link to. I have one hooked up to my 990 and love it. and it goes for $300.
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#59318 - 04/07/06 04:04 PM
Re: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Frederick, MD
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Had never heard of this before reading it here ...
How do you have it hooked up to the network? (Wireless, Ethernet) How do you have it hooked up the the 990? (RCA, Digital) Do you play music only off of your PC or do you have any services?
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#59320 - 04/07/06 04:19 PM
Re: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Frederick, MD
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I did a quick read on the website. I was just wondering how someone had it personnelly hooked up.
I have all 700 CDs in iTunes. Am I having to re-record in the Squeezebox software or just point to current files?
Really curious about other services and how people like them.
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#59322 - 04/07/06 05:25 PM
Re: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 240
Loc: The Northcoast
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Originally posted by Chris Wolcott: Had never heard of this before reading it here ...
How do you have it hooked up to the network? (Wireless, Ethernet) How do you have it hooked up the the 990? (RCA, Digital) Do you play music only off of your PC or do you have any services? 1) I have the wireless model and run it off my home network. 2) I have it hooked to the 990 via digital coax (though you can use opital or RCA as well). 3) I can play off the music files on my computer or you can listen to well over 200 Internet radio stations without going thru the computer, it accesses an outside server via the network. In the last month you can also stream from any Pandora music stations you may have created at Pandora.com. The Pandora service is free for the first 90 days and $36/year after the free trial. It supports a number of formats inclduing FLAC. I really like it and the quality is excellent especially thru the 990. Very good value for $300.
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