#59240 - 04/06/06 11:39 AM
990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/28/06
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Since my 990 remote won't handle my Denon 2910, I am trying a Harmony 880. So far, pretty functional but a little buggy at times. I know there are some others here using the 880.
My question is: Since the 990 uses different input signals as "power up" signals, how are you setting the proper input after the 990 powers up. For example, if I use the 7.1 input as the power on signal, it is universal across all activities. Once on, I can not figure out how to get the 880 to automatically change the 990 input to DVD. The help command from the 880 takes care of the switch but requires more buttons for my wife to press.
Any help/suggestions are appreciated. And by the way, the 990/7500 are keepers. It's all the other stuff that's still questionable.
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#59241 - 04/06/06 12:43 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 72
Loc: Eureka CA.
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Sounds like you need another 'activity' setup so you can have the 990 turned on in 7.1 for audio listening, and a second activity that turns the 990 on for DVD viewing.
When I press the 'watch TV' activity, the 880 turns the 990 on to 'Sat'. When I press 'watch a DVD' I have the 990 default to 7.1. When I press 'watch a movie' the 990 defaults to DVD player in 5.1 surround (or dts, or DD, or, etc).
Does this make sense?
Lonster
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#59242 - 04/06/06 12:55 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/04/02
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Loc: Louisville, KY
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Originally posted by Lonster:
Sounds like you need another 'activity' setup so you can have the 990 turned on in 7.1 for audio listening, and a second activity that turns the 990 on for DVD viewing.
When I press the 'watch TV' activity, the 880 turns the 990 on to 'Sat'. When I press 'watch a DVD' I have the 990 default to 7.1. When I press 'watch a movie' the 990 defaults to DVD player in 5.1 surround (or dts, or DD, or, etc).
Does this make sense?
Lonster This is exactly how mine functions.
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#59243 - 04/06/06 12:58 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/28/06
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Thanks Lonny-
That's exactly what I tried to do. When I set up a new activity (watch DVD) the input changes in other activities (listen to SACD, for example) It seems like the 880 is passing the power on input across all activities.
Can you share your commands?
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#59244 - 04/06/06 01:05 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 72
Loc: Eureka CA.
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Yes, I can, but what specifically are you looking for/to do? Set up another activity or correct a setup feature in an existing activity?
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#59245 - 04/06/06 01:24 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 72
Loc: Eureka CA.
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Also, anyone else reading this should remember that Harmony has an excellent customer service support staff that will sit with you on the phone and help you program and edit your 880 remote. They are well versed on the remote and very patient and knowledgeable.
1-866-291-1505
Lonster
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#59246 - 04/06/06 01:43 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 20
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Yep- they were very helpful but as confused as me (at least the one I talked with). Maybe I need to try again.
Lonny-
I have 3 activities so far.
1. Watch DVD
2. Listen to SACD
3. Listen to CD-DVD (CD using the DVD player)
#1 and #3 use the same 990 input (DVD), #1 just turns on the TV to it's proper input.
#2 needs the 7.1 input from the 990 but comes up in DVD input. The help button on the 880 corrects this by changing the 990 to 7.1
If I program #2 to turn on the 990 in 7.1 mode, then #1 and #3 come up in 7.1 and require the help button on the 880 to get them to DVD input.
I'm obviously missing a step in the activity setup that the tech I spoke with didn't get either.
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#59247 - 04/06/06 05:51 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 79
Loc: Champaign, IL
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Don't give up! I had a lot of trouble getting it right at first. I was at the point where help would fix various things but when I went on-line and tried to fix it, nothing helped. I eventually wiped my 880 clean and went on the web and wiped that clean--started over and did ONE activity. I couldn't get that quite right so I called and found someone very helpful. Moral of story: start simple and keep calling until you find a bright lightbulb. I now have 7 complex activities working just fine with a projector, 990, 3 amps, DEQX electronic crossover, SAT HD tuner, and CD/DVD player. It can be done!
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#59248 - 04/06/06 09:56 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Desperado
Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
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AudioBear,
I have an 880 too and it does one annoying thing that I'm sure can be fixed. Maybe you have had this issue. When I turn on my system it always goes to one input(cable tv in my case) regardless of which activity I select. To work around this I have added a custom button with the appropriate input and so avoiding the "Help" button. The delay settings appear to be the way to fix this but I'm not sure how to set them. Got any advice for me on how to make sure the 880 sets the 990 input correctly?
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Outlaw 976 | ATI 2005 | M&K 850s Left, Center & Right, Surround-55s, MX-70B Sub | Harmony 950 remote | Panamax 5100 | OPPO UDP-203 | LG OLED55B7
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#59249 - 04/06/06 10:32 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 79
Loc: Champaign, IL
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Hey AvFan
I grew up in the Lemon Grove-La Mesa area and went to SDSU--for what that's worth. I had that problem at first. I wish I could tell you exactly how I solved it but there are so many menus and webpages in the set-up I can't recall exactly. Like I said, I trashed all my initial set-ups and wiped the memory clean in my 880 by a total reset. Then I set up one activity and sat on it until it worked perfectly. I also got better at the logic of the Harmony webpages. Once you have an activity working perfectly, define another one. I will log on and look at the site and see if I can find the page, but there is one page that displays your configuration that allows you to add, remove and change options for each piece of equipment and I recall spending a lot of time on that page. The big problem is once I got it set up months ago I was afraid to ever touch it again and now I have forgotten how. But for sure it should set the right input for every activity and that is absolutely dependent on how you define the activity first time. I also got telephone help once that was useful. Try that too.
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#59250 - 04/06/06 10:49 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 79
Loc: Champaign, IL
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I did use slightly longer delays to make some of my equipment work but I always turn the 990 on first because that turns on my amps too. I would start with that.
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#59251 - 04/06/06 11:36 PM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Desperado
Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
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AudioBear,
Thanks for the insights. I'll probably give them a call since I have messed with the delays without much success. It seems odd that regardless of the Activity I select I get the same 990 input. I'm going to try and avoid going to ground zero by resetting the 880. How do you turn on the 990 first?
How long ago did you live in East County?
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Outlaw 976 | ATI 2005 | M&K 850s Left, Center & Right, Surround-55s, MX-70B Sub | Harmony 950 remote | Panamax 5100 | OPPO UDP-203 | LG OLED55B7
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#59252 - 04/07/06 12:05 AM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 06/14/05
Posts: 5
Loc: Fort Worth, TX
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I had the same issue. Below is the solution that worked for me, originally posted by BrentG on 6/3/05. Link to original thread A quick update on this issue...
I exchanged emails with Harmony Support and finally followed up with a phone call today. boblinds is quite correct: Harmony Support is excellent.
I'm thrilled to say Harmony Support has resolved the problem - a tweak to their setup software now allows a clean setup.
Here are the steps need to correctly configure the power setting for the Outlaw 990:
From the Harmony Report User Home Page, find the Outlaw 990 device and click on the "More Options" link. This takes you to the Device Options page for the Outlaw 990. Click on the "Adjust power settings" link. This will take you into the device setup wizard.
1. Do you want to leave your Stereo Receiver on all the time?
Choose: I want to turn off this device when it's not in use
2. How do you turn your Stereo Receiver on and off with your current remote control?
Choose: A button on the remote for On, and a different button for Off
3. Select Power On Command
Choose: Use these infrared commands: -None-
A big warning will appear: No command was selected. Are you sure? Blah Blah Blah
Click the "Yes" button.
4. Select Power Off Command
Choose: Use these infrared commands: PowerOff
Proceed through the check, download to your remote, and test.
Optional: You can also speed up the power on sequence for any activity by decreasing the Power On Delay for the Outlaw 990. Since there really isn't a power on command, this could probably be set to anything... 500 ms works just fine for me.
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#59253 - 04/07/06 12:20 AM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 20
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Well...here is what I have learned.
Maker's Mark is a great lubricant.
Timing is everything.
The order of things can not be ignored.
By inserting the appropriate delays and re-arranging the order in which things power on, I can do exactly what I need to do.
Thanks for the suggestions/posts. They got my mind working in the proper order.
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#59254 - 04/07/06 12:24 AM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/28/06
Posts: 20
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Oh yes, my system has been turned off and on more than a young men on prom night.
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#59255 - 04/07/06 01:16 AM
Re: 990 and Harmony 880 ( a bit chatty, sorry)
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Gunslinger
Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 72
Loc: Eureka CA.
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I'm glad you finally got it.
I was going to suggest using the 'intermediate' setup program (as opposed to the 'novice' or 'pro' setup) but it seems my time away from this thread got you some other great advice.
2 thumbs up,
Lonster
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