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#59135 - 04/03/06 11:53 AM Component in component out problem
vuamp2 Offline
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Registered: 08/04/05
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This is the first time that I tried the component input on my 990 and has major problem. No Video came out of the 990 Component output. I would hope someone can help me to resolve it.

My connection :
- DVD player component out connects to 990 component in ("DVD in" on the back of the 990)
- 990 Component out connects to Component in on Pioneer LCD TV component in.
- DVD player Compossit out conect to 990 composite in ("DVD")

I went into the 990 main menu --> Input config -->DVD1 --> Video and cycle through the following posible input choices:
1. DVI 1 - No picture shown in TV as I expected
2. DVI 2 - No picture shown in TV as I expected
3. COMP-DVD - should see video signal from DVD. No picture
4. COMP 1 - No picture shown in TV as I expected
5. COMP 2 - No picture shown in TV as I expected
6. S-video - No picture shown in TV as I expected
7. Composite - see DVD video on TV as I expected.

I connected the DVD component input to others 990 component inputs (VIDEO 1 in and VIDEO 2) and cycled throught the above input choices and have the same results.

I can see video signal on my TV if I connected the DVD player componenet output directly into my TV component input.

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#59136 - 04/03/06 12:07 PM Re: Component in component out problem
gonk Offline
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First, I'd suggest that you remove the composite connection - you're not going to ever want to use it. Make sure the component cable is connected properly between player and 990 (green to green, blue to blue, red to red) and set the DVD input's video to COMP-DVD. Also make sure the TV is set to use its component input - what you are describing currently is exactly what I would expect to see if the TV's input is set to either composite or s-video at the time (the 990 doesn't transcode from component to composite). Once that's done, give it a whirl and let us know what happens.
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#59137 - 04/03/06 02:11 PM Re: Component in component out problem
PodBoy Offline
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Registered: 05/09/05
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Taking a slightly different path to what the Gonkster suggests, are you certain that your DVD player is able to support both composite and component at the same time, and that no settings are needed on the DVD player?

Do you have any other component source to connect through the 990 to test?

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#59138 - 04/03/06 03:05 PM Re: Component in component out problem
redrob Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Another quick check would be to hook the DVD player directly up to the TV- make sure that works, and then try to sort out any 990 issues.

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#59139 - 04/03/06 03:16 PM Re: Component in component out problem
rubbersoul Offline
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Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
Hello there Gonk!!
I have a question for you about the 990.
Simply put is it difficult to set up. I will be buying the 990/7700 in june and I figure I'd get a head start on my drinking if it is more difficult than my Yamaha 3300.
The damn directions for some of these things have a lot to be said about them.
Also I am thinking of selling my Yamaha 3300 in the next month or so and was considering asking for $650.00 plus shipping.
What do you think about the price? It is in perfect condition, no scratches or dents. However I do not have the original box.
Thanks,Frank


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#59140 - 04/03/06 03:43 PM Re: Component in component out problem
gonk Offline
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It is actually pretty straightforward to set up - the menus are only one screen each and laid out in a logical order for doing a complete setup in one pass. (And no cute but cryptic icons identifying menus, something that I've always found a bit annoying when I run into it on DVD players.) Any surround receiver or processor today is going to be complex to set up, but if you've done it before the 990's a pretty comfortable one to work through. The manual's also goign to help get you through.

I don't know what the market price would be for your Yammy - I'd probably watch Audiogon for a bit and see what others are asking. Perhaps some of the folks around here who have recently upgraded from Yamaha can shed some light on that.
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#59141 - 04/03/06 03:52 PM Re: Component in component out problem
Paratrooper Offline
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Registered: 06/07/03
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Loc: Conyers,GA,USA
You can download the manual from the Products section and read the setup procedures prior to buying the 990. I think you will find the 990 and easy pre/pro to setup.

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#59142 - 04/03/06 04:27 PM Re: Component in component out problem
psyprof1 Offline
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Registered: 09/10/05
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Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
Vuamp2, I regret to say I had the same problem you did: no video output, not even the setup menu, except from the composite connection. No S-video, no component. I didn't try HDMI because my VCR would have been useless and there's no setup menu there anyway. Your connections were exactly like mine. I was hoping my problem was unique, but apparently not. I suggest you contact Steve at tech support. Maybe there's a fix by this time.

My replacement 990 works fine.

Good luck,

Paul Nay

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#59143 - 04/03/06 04:33 PM Re: Component in component out problem
psyprof1 Offline
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I should have said the replacement 990 is fine except for a problem in AM direct entry tuning above 1190 kc which I described on another thread. I never tried that particular bit with the earlier unit so don't know how general the problem is, but two other users have reported it.

On this one can of course take the position "AM radio - who cares?"

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#59144 - 04/03/06 04:42 PM Re: Component in component out problem
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
The AM direct tuning entry is apparently a software bug, so we can hope that the planned firmware update will sort that out for you.
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#59145 - 04/03/06 11:37 PM Re: Component in component out problem
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AM direct tuning NOT a big deal with me. There is an AM station here at 1450 that carries a lot of BBC material, but I've already put it in my presets list. As a software bug this is about flea size.

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#59146 - 04/05/06 01:13 PM Re: Component in component out problem
rubbersoul Offline
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Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 383
Loc: folsom, pa.
Thanks Gonk and everyone,
I will peck around on the internet for a fair price on the Y3300.Glad to know I will only need one 30 pack to hook up the Outlaw.
Frank

Definitive 2004’s mains
Definitive Clr2001 center
Definitive BPX1.2’s surrounds
Definitive BPX1.2 center rear
Definitive PF 1500 sub-woofer
Infocus 7205 projector
Da-lite 0 gain screen
Comcast HD Digital Box
Monster 3500 surge protector
Monster 3600 surge protector
Yamaha 3300 receiver
Toshiba 5 disc DVD,CD player
Sony 777 DVD, CD player
Pioneer Elite Laser disc player
Pioneer Elite Cd player
Marantz RC 5000 remote
Mit & Monster cables
_________________________
Outlaw 990/7700
Conrad Johnson Premier140 Tube Amplifier
Conrad Johnson 17LS MKll Pre Amp
B&W 803D2’s HTM3S DS7's
HSU Subwoofer
Mitsubishi 6800 Projector
Da-Lite Screen,
Oppo BDP93
Comcast
PS Audio DSD
Stack Variac
Kill-O-Watt
Nakamichi cables Audio 8 cables
Air-Server
Mac-Mini
ROON

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#59147 - 04/08/06 07:02 AM Re: Component in component out problem
vuamp2 Offline
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Registered: 08/04/05
Posts: 8
Loc: US
Thanks Gonk and everyone,

It turns out one connector on the component cable is the problem. New set of cable fixed the problem that I have. laugh

Vuamp2

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#59148 - 04/08/06 11:06 AM Re: Component in component out problem
KOYAAN Offline
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Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 358
Loc: Sanford NC
Hi folks,
I've encountered a somewhat similar problem that I hope can be solved as simply.
Suddenly my s-video to component conversion has stopped working.S-video still outputs fine through s-video, and the component out work fine when swiching component inputs, but when I switch to an s-video input, I just get a slightly herringboned black screen from the component out.
Since every thing else is working, I've concluded that it can't be a connection issue. I don't see anything in the set-up menues that should effect this.
Anybody got a suggestion?

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#59149 - 04/09/06 02:30 AM Re: Component in component out problem
Skyblazer Offline
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Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
Hmmmm? might want to check both ends of your S-video cable. sometimes those tiny pins get bent and it won't work right.

Just a thought.
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#59150 - 04/09/06 01:52 PM Re: Component in component out problem
KOYAAN Offline
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Skyblazer,You should turn pro.
I had 2 s-video connections into the 990. I repaced both cables, Component conversion works great.
If we wern't 3000 miles apart I'd buy you a beer.

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Oppo BD83SE
Pioneer Elite DV-47A
Magnavox HDMR513h DVR/DVD-R
Sony DVD megachangers-2
Sony CD megachangers-2
Monster power centers-2
Sony 48" rear projection SDTV
Roku video player
JVC AL-A158 Turntable
Polk RT-2000s,CS-650,XS-650s,RT80s
LFM-1EX
Hsu VTF-1
12" Velodyne

Family room:
OPPO 970
Sony 32" direct view HDTV
Denon 3801
Rolk RMs

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#59151 - 04/09/06 03:34 PM Re: Component in component out problem
Skyblazer Offline
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Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
KOYAAN,

thanks for the props.. i've worked in broadcasting for over 20 yrs.. video is my main responsibility.

glad you got it working again. THe 990 does an awesome job upconverting the S-video signal.

enjoy.
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