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#58655 - 03/21/06 01:28 AM Re: Interconnects
AvFan Offline
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I make my own RCA interconnects. Check out http://ubb.outlawaudio.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/14/t/000152.html for a discussion on making custom length cables that won't break the bank but will likely meet most folks needs. I use Steren connectors with Belden RG59 cable without any complaints. The Canare connectors with either Belden or Canare cable would also be a fine choice.
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#58656 - 03/21/06 07:25 PM Re: Interconnects
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I will throw in another vote for BlueJeans Cable; I had them make a set of XLR's for my 990/7700 and they are very nice; extreamly flexiable and fairly thin cable, you can also get them color coded. I had the 7125 Amp until the 7700 were available and I was using RCA's; did not notice a difference in sound either way between XLR / RCA but I do like the XLC connectors much better.

All of my cables were made to length by BlueJeans and I am VERY happy with the Belden Brilliance Cable and Canare connectors that they use.
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#58657 - 03/21/06 09:56 PM Re: Interconnects
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Here's a short tutorial on making high quality interconnect for those that don't want to spring for expensive crimping tools. I prefer Canare mic cable and canare crimp-on RCA plugs, but any higher quality mic cable and quality RCA plug will do. This is a bit more flexible than the coax recipes that some people like to use and has good noise rejection characteristics.

http://www.wmeckle.com/CABLE/Cable.htm

Or you can just take the guess work out and buy cabling from Outlaw. I like the locking RCA connectors they use.

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#58658 - 03/22/06 08:03 PM Re: Interconnects
treetownal Offline
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Registered: 12/30/05
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Loc: New York City
I love love love my 990 & 7125 but I hate the locking PCA cables I got. By the time about 4 of them were in place I couldn't squeeze my fingers in to tighten the remaining 3 and the 7th one forget about it, I had to find an old RCA cable to get the system up and running. I personally think the locking cables were a terrible idea. Sweet looking cables and they feel solidly built, I can probably use them someday for other analog inputs, but not good (really nonfunctional for me) for purposes connecting the amp and preamp. My fingers are not very wide either, in fact pretty thin, so its really a poor choice on Outlaw's part to sell these things imo.
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#58659 - 03/22/06 08:50 PM Re: Interconnects
edcon Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
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I agree there should be a little more room between the RCA connection points. They certainly dedicated plenty of room between the XLR connections. As you said using the outlaw PCA cables which have a larger circumference than a standard RCA makes it even tighter. I noticed things were cramped when I first hooked up. However it wasn’t until I went to unhook the L/F main, to test a two channel amp, when I really noticed the problem. There was not enough room to really get my fingers in there so I could loosen the connection, I had to(delicately) use a pair of needle nose plyers to loosen. Not the best scenario.
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#58660 - 03/22/06 10:18 PM Re: Interconnects
jmacari Offline
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Registered: 12/28/05
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Loc: Rhode Island
I also agree with the above about the Outlaw PCA cables....in fact, since I now use XLR cables with my 7500, I've relegated the PCA's to another preamp that has more room available for them.
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#58661 - 03/23/06 08:35 AM Re: Interconnects
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Now that you mention it, yes it was a bit of a pain in the hiney to connect the 990 and 755 with the locking connectors after more than a couple were connected. I ended up using a pair of bent nose needle nose pliers to finish up. The outputs on the 990 are VERY close together.

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#58662 - 03/23/06 11:39 AM Re: Interconnects
psyprof1 Offline
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Registered: 09/10/05
Posts: 443
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
I'm surprised nobody's complaining about the 990's inputs - they are just as close together as the outputs and there are a lot more of them. Isn't anyone using Outlaw interconnects on the inputs?

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#58663 - 03/23/06 03:13 PM Re: Interconnects
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Interesting historical tidbit: around the time the Model 950 started shipping (with inputs and outputs that are if anything slightly closer together than the 990's), Outlaw revised the design of the PCA's locking connectors to reduce the diameter due to feedback of this type. The current size are almost indistinguishable in diameter from other locking RCA's I've got in my system. Locking RCA's are inevitably a tight fit, whether from Outlaw or from somebody else.

EDIT: Woah, post number 6000...
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#58664 - 03/23/06 06:39 PM Re: Interconnects
edcon Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
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I think the issue is with the spacing between the inputs and outputs on the 990, not the diameter of the Outlaw(or other manufactures) PCA interconnects. As you have pointed out Gonk, a good number of locking RCA's from other manufactures are virtually the same diameter as the outlaw cables. To clarify my post above I was referring to the RCA outputs from the 990 to the 7125 (running a full 7.1 system it is very cramped!). Really by design the spacing does not accommodate the locking connectors adequately. That said it’s a minor inconvenience in my opinion, the 990 is an outstanding Pre-pro.
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