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#58339 - 03/04/06 01:12 PM Help with DVD/CD player(s)
olness Offline
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Purchased the a 990/7700/LMF-1/SMS 1 last Thursday and expect delivery late next week. I have Klipsch RF-7's up front and Klipsch Synergy's for the side, back and center channels.

I have been out of the loop for the last twenty years. Boy have things changed.

Anyone have suggestions for DVD and CD players that will fit nicely with the Outlaw equipment and be functional for 7 to 10 years? Thanks in advance.
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#58340 - 03/04/06 01:20 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
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If you have HDMI or DVI inputs on your TV, the Oppo DVD player is supposed to be pretty good, particularly for the cost ($200). If you only have component ins, perhaps a Denon? I guess it all depends on how much you want to spend.

I wouldn't expect to keep a DVD player for 7 to 10 years right now though as the new format players (Blueray and HD DVD) are coming out supposedly sometime this year.

As far as CD players, that is if you want a dedicated one, I've always liked the Marantz units.

I'm sure that the other Outlaws have other opinions on what to buy, but those are my $.02 worth of suggestions. smile

Oh and enjoy your new stuff. Don't know, personally, about the subs and amps that Outlaw make, but the 990 is definitely a good piece to have. Be interesting to hear your thoughts on the whole setup once you get it all put together.

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#58341 - 03/04/06 02:43 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
gonk Offline
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The Oppo is a good choice for performance if you have HDMI or DVI inputs (the component output is limited to 480i on the Oppo, which is why it is generally recommended only for displays with HDMI or DVI). Denon is a good brand, but if your budget isn't up for a mid-level Denon you might try Toshiba. If you spend a good chunk of change on a Denon, it should go for the seven years you are hoping for. The Oppo's too new for us to know how it'll last long-term, but I haven't heard of units failing after a year of growing popularity online so they can't be skimping too badly on build quality - and at $200 (as compared to $350-$750 for a Denon that isn't overly stripped down), it's not so big an investment you couldn't replace it after three or four years if it did give up the ghost.

The 990 has some nice DAC's, and with the upsample capability it really does a good job with CD's in stereo. You could probably use your DVD player as a CD transport and get some very pleasing results.
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#58342 - 03/16/06 02:37 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
DaveR Offline
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Take a look at the UDP-1 from McCormack

http://www.mccormackaudio.com
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#58343 - 03/16/06 02:57 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
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Only $3500.....hmmmm!
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#58344 - 03/16/06 03:02 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
DaveR Offline
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And worth every penny!!!!
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#58345 - 03/16/06 03:23 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
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Oh yeah.....? laugh
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#58346 - 03/16/06 03:26 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
gonk Offline
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Well, I'd certainly hope it'd last 7 to 10 years. The video side didn't do a particularly great job in the Secrets shootout , but it apparently has a strong audio section. It would probably fit nicely from an audio performance standpoint, but it may not be a good fit with olness's budget - if you start moving toward the $1000 range, something like a Denon 3910 might be worth considering.
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#58347 - 03/16/06 06:34 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
ZoFo Offline
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I recently went through this same delima and at first I decided on a Denon 2900 which had recently been discontinued; really wanted this Universal Player and seached hard for a couple of weeks and could not find a new, used or refurb. My budget was $800 so I got a Denon 2910 and a Pioneer Elite 59AVi to compare; the Elite 58AVi was the better of the two and since Pioneer had just released the new 79AVi the price dropped so it was actually cheaper then the Denon.

59AVi Elites can be found on the Web for much less that their origional price of $1,800 which went down and stayed at $1,200 6 months after it's release. I paid around $700 for mine; it's a very nice Universal Player!
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#58348 - 03/16/06 08:57 PM Re: Help with DVD/CD player(s)
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I would like to know the Serial # of the one tested. I have a problem with the test results. As with any piece of A/V gear, a great deal depends upon the "other gear" in the system. Measuring "tests" can yield results that are not the actual case.....ie..loudspeakers are "subjective" at best, and depend upon all the factors that are present....mainly the listeners ears and the "acoustic environment".
In my A/V syatem, to my eyes and ears, this is an excellent unit....expensive..yes.
I have owned "high end" audio gear for years...starting with ML JC-1(s) and ML-2(4)in the 1970's, Sequerra Model 1, and other "esoteric" audio gear.
You get what you pay for....but the gain in "high end" gear is logarithmic...Spend 1K, get a .1% gain....spend 10K....maybe 1%...if that. Over the years, I have "invested" a small fortune in A/V gear...in search of the "Aural Grail".....yet to be obtained. Will I quit...No Way...It's my passion...and what is life without passion!!!!
Will I replace the UDP-1...."fer sure"...and that is a given!
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