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#57560 - 02/05/06 05:39 PM 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
neekos Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
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Just curious if anyone has compared the two directly.

Also, are there any concerns noted over the low output impedance and voltage on the 990 ?

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#57561 - 02/06/06 12:43 AM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
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Registered: 04/17/05
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Loc: WA
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#57562 - 02/08/06 01:07 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
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Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 53
Loc: So Cal
Regarding this thread on avsforum, why are there so many people with so much anger/vitriol? Especially this Robert George...does he think he's the king o' audio/video? Give me a break...he's never even heard a 990. But of course, since he's omnipotent, why would he need to. He can sit on Mt. Olympus and pass judgment on us mortals.

This is one reason I've been enjoying reading here, people actually know the equipment, and don't have an agenda except they are excited and want to help. Imagine that!

Oh, wait, I guess I got emotional. Sorry...
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#57563 - 02/08/06 01:23 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
Doug917 Offline
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Registered: 08/10/05
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Loc: Shawnee, KS
I participate on both forums, but enjoy this and some of the other smaller ones more. People are more friendly and aren't as snooty. There are some people with A LOT of dough invested in their systems at AVS and I guess they have to stomp people once in a while to justify why they spent 2 to 10 times as much on a piece with performance on par or only slightly better (to their ears) than something at a fraction of the cost.

Sure information will be biased towards Outlaw here. After all it is the Outlaw forum. I take everything people say with a grain of salt anyhow and let my ears do the real judging.
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#57564 - 02/08/06 04:03 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
braidkid Offline
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Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 102
Loc: WA
Well, if you think about it....If you spent $2k more on a processor that sounds only slightly better than the Outlaw, you'd be pretty upset too and would stomp on the cheaper guy.

Outlaw has created an impressive name for themselves and the Anthems/Parasounds/Arcams should be worried.
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Outlaw 990 pre/pro
Outlaw 7100 amp
Denon DVD-2910
M&K LCR750
M&K Surround-55 tripole
Dual M&K VX-1250
Outlaw PCAs
Blue Jeans Component and HDMI
Panamax 5500

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#57565 - 02/08/06 05:11 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
syvlvr Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 53
Loc: So Cal
Yeah, I guess so, but come on, let your ears do the walking! And not let your wallet do the talking!!

Just peeves me when people act like they are all-knowing, yet haven't bothered to even audition the gear.

Kinda want the chance to tell one of 'em where to put their gear. But then, wouldn't I be like them?

So, guess I will continue to be in the know quietly.
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#57566 - 02/08/06 07:55 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
Ritz Offline
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 547
Loc: NJ/Beijing
Welcome to the world. Same reason a person with a Bentley chuckles at a person with an Audi or a BMW....

Stereo equipment is one of those areas where you often do NOT get what you pay for. Hype and marketing play far more important of a role than you think for the typical "well off" person who just wants "the best stuff" and knows little about what makes things "the best" other than what they read in the awful audio rags.

If you start hyping gear that costs too little, the "big boys" stop advertising in your rag, you stop getting freebie equipment, etc....

It's for that reason that ATI probably decided to create Outlaw in the first place. "If it's too cheap, it must not be good." *shrug*
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#57567 - 02/08/06 08:20 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
Lasher Offline
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Registered: 07/29/03
Posts: 191
Loc: Oak Ridge TN.
Ritz,
I was not aware that ATI "Created" Outlaw. Where did you hear this?

syvlvr,
I've seen a lot of Outlaw bashing over at AVS myself but if you hang around and watch the threads, It's always a very vocal few that are doing the bashing.
I've always been a fan(and still am an owner)of Outlaw Audio.
I've learned to ignore those elite few who think they know everything and seek out the soft spoken few who do know something. It's kind of like speakers, If you listen long enough you'll find out the truth for yourself and after all it's only you that matters in the end.

Just my .02
Lasher

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#57568 - 02/08/06 08:29 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
PodBoy Offline
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Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 281
Ritz:

What evidence is there that ATI "Created" Outlaw? The Outlaws clearly state that their first, and most subsequent, amps come from ATI, but Outlaw and ATI would appear to clearly be two separate entities. If ATI owned OUtlaw, why would Outlaw be in Mass, not in California? Look at the ATI processors -- they are nothing near the Outlaws.

As to AVS, there is always someone there to pitch manure at any brand, including OUtlaw (and AV123 and others) and in many cases, yes, by people who have never heard, let alone owned Outlaw (or the brand they are bashing's) products.

That's life in the internet "value priced" product world!

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#57569 - 02/08/06 08:53 PM Re: 990 vs Anthem AVM 30
neekos Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 27
uh, topic please ?

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