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#56387 - 11/10/05 11:27 AM Headphones and the 990
audvid Offline
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Registered: 02/17/03
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Loc: Fairview, TX
I'm thinking about getting some headphones because my wife doesn't always appreciate my selection of music.

I've been doing research and reading reviews in magazines and online. I also did a search under the 990 section to see if anyone has discussed headphones at any length. Not much going on.

Can I get some feedback on what headphones everyone is using and comments on how they sound with the 990 (proud owner for about 6 months now).

If I do get headphones I'll use them to listen to stereo music. I haven't listened to music through headphones in 30 years and what I used back then were pretty cheap.

Any comments on listening to music through headphones as compared to speakers would be welcome also. I've killed the brain cells that held any memory of what it was like to listen to music through headphones and have never experienced listening through quality headphones.

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#56388 - 11/10/05 11:49 AM Re: Headphones and the 990
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This could be an interesting thread. Like you, I haven't used headphones any significant amount in quite a few years, and I haven't tried the 990's headphone jack except to figure out how it worked.
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#56389 - 11/10/05 12:58 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
justhavingfun Offline
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Registered: 08/05/04
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Loc: Lansing, KS
Depending on your budget and type of music, there are many quality headphones that you can purchase for your pleasure. Anyway here are my recommendation for following price range:

Under $50 - Koss Porta Pro
Under $100 - Grado SR 60
Under $250 - Grado SR 225 (best for rock&roll type of music)
(Grado generally feels little uncomfortable for me since I have BIG ears but with slight modification of headbend, they can be quite comfortable)
Under $300 - Sennheiser HD 580 (this one you can buy around $200 street price now since it is no longer their top model)

Best sealed ear-canal headphone - Etymotic ER4S (this one gives you 23db isolation, great for commute, air travels, and noisy environment but requires quality headphone amp to reach full potential)

And if price is no object and you love classical and jazz music, you might want to look into electrostatic headphones instead of dynamic headphones. Generally they are very expensive.

If I wanted to just plug my headphone into any available jacks (990, portable, computer, iPOD etc.) without the headphone amp, Grado SR60 will be my choice. However, for my 990 headphone listening, Sennheiser HD580 gets most usage and it sounds great. Try to audition as many headphones you can get with your favorate musics. Hope this info helps you to make informed buying decision.

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#56390 - 11/10/05 01:33 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
audvid Offline
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Registered: 02/17/03
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Loc: Fairview, TX
Thanks justhavingfun, excellent feedback. I was looking to go as high as $250 to $300 but the problem I'm having is finding a local dealer to audition a set. I'm in the north Dallas area and have used different manufacturers website to locate local dealers but I'm having minimal success. Circuit City and Best Buy don't carry the higher-end models and Tweeter (suppose to be a dealer for Sennheiser) doesn't have anything in stock. Grado gave me one possible source but it's kind of far but maybe I'll make the trip.

Headroom seems to have a good price for the HD600 but I hate to buy without listening and I hate to take advantage of brick&mortor stores and then buy online. I may have to go the route of buying online from someone who has a money back guarantee if I'm not satisfied.

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#56391 - 11/10/05 01:41 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
lanion Offline
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Registered: 07/12/05
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I've owned Grados RS-1 Headphones, Sennheiser HD-590s, and Sony's latest MDRSA-1000 and MDRSA-5000 brands and I have to say I like the Sonys best. Grados are awesome good but your ears hurt if you have them on for, say, 2 hours. Plus the build quality is not the most robust. My brother has owned several grados and the headband broke on both. This was surely due to treating them a little roughtly, but Sennhesier's and Sony's headphones can handle a little rough handling.
Between Sonys new SA line and Sennheisers is sort of a toss up. The Sony MDR-SA1000 can be found for $100 and is an *excellent* set of headphones. If I only had $100 for headphones I would buy those in a second, as I think they are quite comperable to the Sennheiser HD-590s which run for $140 or so on the used market. The MDR-SA5000 can be found for about $350 and sounds better better than the 1000, but I think most of the extra money went into excellent build quailty (leather pads, all metal frame).

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#56392 - 11/10/05 02:17 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
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Registered: 03/05/02
Posts: 138
Loc: Shelbyville, KY, USA
If you are interested in all things headphone's here is a link you might try.

http://www.headphone.com/

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#56393 - 11/10/05 02:20 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
audvid Offline
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Registered: 02/17/03
Posts: 78
Loc: Fairview, TX
You're right Oil Can it is a good site. They even seem to bust some headphones that they sell.

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#56394 - 11/10/05 02:37 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
justhavingfun Offline
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Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 86
Loc: Lansing, KS
audvid,

If you plan to purchase HD600, you might want to invest on some good quality headphone amp to go with it later whether it's home use or portable. When I auditioned both HD580 and HD600, I preferred HD580 for non-headphone amp setup while HD600 really shined with the quality headphone amp. Now Sennheiser's top model headphone is HD650 which I didn't have a chance to listen to it yet. Here is another website for all headphone discussions, www.headwize.com; they have all kinds of reviews, info, suggestions for diy, etc.

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#56395 - 11/10/05 03:43 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
Mike in Virginia Offline
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Registered: 06/09/05
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Loc: Lansdowne, Virginia
Probably a dumb question, but since the 990 can use the Dolby Headphone processing, would different sets of headphones be better than others at getting the most from this capability? (I haven't even plugged in my 30+ year old headphones yet.)
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#56396 - 11/10/05 03:50 PM Re: Headphones and the 990
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Registered: 03/14/02
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Loc: Boston, MA, USA
My Senn HD580's sound pretty nice on the 990. As justhavingfun said, the 600's do sound better with a good headphone amp.

The Grados are also nice, but leaky to the surrounding environment.

I find the Senn 580's/600's to be among the most comfortable headphones I've ever had the pleasure of wearing. They're circumaural, and sit on your head, not on your ears. I love Grados for sound, but they're among the least comfortable for me. Aftermarket ear pads can make a big difference.

You can find 580's for under $150 from legit sources if you shop around online.

Yet another forum: http://www.headfi.com/

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