#54662 - 06/17/05 12:11 PM
Lip synch feature question
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Oakland, CA
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What is the maximum delay the lip synch can do? Is it capable of 300ms or more?
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#54664 - 06/17/05 01:24 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Oakland, CA
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Thanks, bummer if that's all..
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#54665 - 06/17/05 01:47 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/07/05
Posts: 15
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I agree. There are times when I need a greater delay. I would have thought the max would be at least 500ms, if not a full second. Perhaps in a future software upgrade?
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#54666 - 06/17/05 02:07 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/09/05
Posts: 85
Loc: Lansdowne, Virginia
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I'm just on the waiting list for my 990 so my question is not first-hand, but I'm really curious about when 1/4 - 1/3 second delay isn't enough. What kind of source material are you using? What equipment? (If this is covered in other threads, I apologize in advance for any repetition.)
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#54667 - 06/17/05 02:17 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Oakland, CA
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I've just hung my HD2K projector. It will be fed by the Algolth Dragonfly scaler/processor due out in a few weeks. The Algolith HDMI Mosquito video noise reducer is due in August and I plan on using it. These two video processors will add a 300ms delay, maybe more. I'll wire as follows:
Video Chain = Source -> Mosquito -> Dragonfly -> 990 - Projector
Audio Chain = Source -> 990 w/delay
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#54669 - 06/17/05 03:58 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 281
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I think the max delay is 250 mS, but in most cases that ought to be enough. To be honest, I can't think of many products on the market now have considerably less and I can't think of any that have more.
I'd bet that there really isn't any way for them to increase it with a sofware upgrade as the amount of available delay is related to the hardware issue of memory.
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#54670 - 06/20/05 12:41 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 124
Loc: Basking Ridge, NJ,USA
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Had anyone tried the James Bond move...Die another day.......what setting is to applied?
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#54673 - 06/20/05 04:41 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 281
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May I suggest that the best way to see if there is something amiss with the DISC and the way in which the soundtrack is recorded, as opposed to delay that is induced by digital video processing along the line is to play the disc from a DVD player directly to an analog TV, with simple L/R audio connections from the DVD to TV, if possible. See if it is in sync in THAT condition, and then search forward from there for possible places where the delay might be coming from.
If the delay is really bad with one disc in your typical DVD > 990 > Digital Display signal path, but reasonably OK with other discs, the problem may well be in that disc.
Are you seeing (hearing!) that much more delay with this disc? Sounds odd, but anything's possible!
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#54675 - 06/21/05 08:45 AM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 124
Loc: Basking Ridge, NJ,USA
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Hi, Folks: The DVD - Die another day has sych problem on the DTS track, but not the DD track. It is well known after the DVD is out to market. I am using DVI direct btw DVD player/projecter, so it was very clumsy to make synch adjustment without on screen display. I tried several times without sucess. Gonk might be right. The DTS sound track is not matching the video. It is not because of the decoding delay on sound vs video. I wonder if the synch adjustment at 990 can resolve the dvd problem, but it seems not. Kwok
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#54676 - 06/21/05 11:48 AM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 281
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Kwok:
It depends totally on the amount that the video has slipped behind the audio. If it is within the range of the 990's correction, fine. If not, out of luck. Remember, however, that if you set an extraordinary amount of delay in for a problem disc such as you describe, you'll have to turn it back down when you go to a "normal" disc or you'll be out of sync in the wrong direction!
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#54677 - 06/21/05 12:49 PM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 124
Loc: Basking Ridge, NJ,USA
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#54679 - 06/24/05 11:42 AM
Re: Lip synch feature question
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 14
Loc: So. Cal.
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I experienced the same issue with sync on this disc as well on DTS. I'm using the 950, for now, until my 990 comes. Since the introduction of the 950 into my system. I always choose DTS if offered in the disc. I'll have to try the DD on this disc to see about the sync issue.
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