Let me clarify my question... Right now, I'm using a Denon 2803 pre-out to outboard any number of amps I use to play with and tweak...At 0db input level I get near 70db regardless of any combo of amps or speakers...My brother runs a custom a/v installation business in Ventura and I get to play with all kinds of fantastic gear I'll never be able to afford..I've been able to demo everything from Bel Canto to Parasound/Nad/Integra/Aragon and with those in play I ddin't have any trouble hitting 80 to 85 db range at their 0db input level..and with some gear, I have to trim back the individual levels a bit...I think I read on one of the threads here that someone had to pull back the channel ponies because they were measuring a bit more than they did with their 950 at ref level....but I could have been mistaken..
However, I cal. my system to around 70 db for now, and wouldn't bump it up any more than 75 when I, hopefully, get to bring this beauty home.. Thanks, Gonk for the reply..
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