Firsty, I do repeat that I think Outlaw has a responsibility to inform those on the wiating list of approximate "wait time". No different that the irritating automatic message while the phone number you dialed keeps you on hold. I have worked more than 10 years in manufacturing planning, and It is not rocket science!

Secondly, the long wait has inspired research that I may not have otherwise done. I have test listened to the AVM 30 and liked alot of what I heard! I can pick this up at $2700. I held myself back from listening to the D1 for fear I'd buy it on the spot. I also am reading up on the Parasound C2 or 7100 (can get B stock for $2300). No where close buy to test listen . . .

Hell in my boredom, I've even entertained one of those super recievers from Denon 5805, Onkyo 1000 or Sony 9000EX.

So for ourposes of indulging my question, assume that $3500 is my upper limit. I'll conceed that under 2K the Outlaw is the best deal . . .