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#54002 - 05/25/05 05:38 PM what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
travk13 Offline
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Registered: 02/27/05
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ok we know they are in the same box... diff faceplate .. sure you add balanced outs and dvi .. but what else .. ?? i am interested in the capacitors diodes resister s etc.. power supply .. what makes me want the 990 is this outlaw craftsmanship on the inside.. because honestly sherwood was never a big contender in my elctronics to buy list.. .. a similarity i dont want this to be is like the diff on yamaha's htr line vs rvx or whatever .. little diff faceplate and presto one can be in best buy and the other in ultimate elect.. i believe all this debate is great for all of us .. the cosumer and the company .. the more knowledgeable we are the better choices we make .. then its not a surprise what we get and everybody is happy ///

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#54003 - 05/25/05 06:24 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
PodBoy Offline
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Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 281
For one thing, it may end up being more reliable because they have eliminated all the secondary function buttons on the front panel of the 965. Fewer buttons = fewer things to go wrong.

Also, don't forget that the menu system is significantly different, if you compare the 990 and 965 manuals. The 990 is easier to setup and has functions not available on the 965 such as the 4-way crossover, more flexible setting for lip sync delay, a system lock to prevent accidental setting changes, easy operation of the menus from the front panel, and probably some other things that I'm sure others will point out.

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#54004 - 05/25/05 06:26 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Getting details on the analog circuit path components and such will likely be difficult (short of somebody getting one of each and dissecting them) - even if Outlaw wanted to, they would probably be restricted from outlining it by their agreement with Etronics (the company that makes both Sherwood stuff and the 990). Look at the 950 clones: this very question was asked about the Atlantic Tech and Sherbourn clones (and even the Fosgate FAP-T1, which added a front panel video display and a lot of money to the price tag) and was never answered. One thing I will point out, though, is that the software appears to have been heavily overhauled.
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#54005 - 05/25/05 06:45 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
Nemos2 Offline
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Registered: 08/25/03
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Loc: Huntington, WV
I am not familiar with the sherwood, but does it have a USB/Rs232 port like the 990 does? TO me this marks a major feature that might set the two apart..

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#54006 - 05/25/05 07:07 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
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Registered: 05/25/05
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The 965 does have USB/RS232 for flash upgrades, and it does have lipsync delay.....not sure of the difference in flexibility though.

A friend of mine has one, so I am pretty familiar with it. I pretty much set it up for him.

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#54007 - 05/25/05 08:38 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
obie_fl Offline
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Registered: 12/20/02
Posts: 194
Good luck on this one. I've been bugging AV123 about the difference between the Emotiva Big Dog and the Sunfire TGIV since before they were released. smile
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#54008 - 05/25/05 09:50 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
elikd Offline
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Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 42
Loc: Tampa, Florida, USA
Well the Sherwood has excellent reviews and is highly regarded. It also costs more. So we could do a lot worse than have the same architecture, additional features, and cheaper price.

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#54009 - 05/25/05 10:58 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
travk13 Offline
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Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 63
Loc: iowa
sherwood is 1099 also at many places on net

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#54010 - 05/25/05 11:20 PM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
Keta Offline
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Registered: 12/29/02
Posts: 358
Loc: Central VA
The 990 does not come with the MX500 remote. confused confused

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#54011 - 05/31/05 10:59 AM Re: what makes a 990 not a sherwood newcastle ???
gonk Offline
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I don't know if we ever listed a full run-down of differences in this thread, so here we go: the 990 adds DVI switching, balanced pre-amp outputs, and quadruple crossover for bass management. The software has been heavily re-written and appears to be more user-friendly; it also appears to have rooted out some of the P-965's bugs along the way. It also replaces the MX-500 remote with a less expensive Catalyst48. The list price on the 990 is about $400 less than the P-965, and if you are buying amps from Outlaw at the same time you buy the 990 there are discounts available to shave a bit more off the price.
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