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#53730 - 05/22/05 08:51 PM UPS-brownout protection? Ques
nfaguys Offline
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Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
I'm considering a UPS to protect against brownouts. Been told Monster/Panamax and others are just for surges and filtering.

Considering (because I like the convenience) a 19 inch rackmount version [APC].

I would be grateful for any input (pun not intended) about advisability considering proximity to audio equipment in the rack. Like: is it a problem? Induce hum?

If one of you gunslingers/desperados or outlaws has done this, please comment. All opinions valued. Thanks.
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5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room
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Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director
Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83
Old Sony 60" SXRD TV
Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones



My "Man-cave":
4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!!
990/755/4-KEF 107s
Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director
Alesis 16x4x2 mixer
Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38
Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3

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#53731 - 05/23/05 08:22 AM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
butch Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 13
Loc: Ottawa, Canada
I've used a non rack unit for years with no noise problems at all. Nice to know when there is this problem the battaries kick in for the extra juice needed. Last summer here in Ottawa curtain area's also had higher than normal voltage(135) for a couple of days which this unit also warned of and corrected the problem. hope this helped abit.

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#53732 - 05/23/05 09:49 AM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
Owl's_Warder Offline
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Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
My gear is also non-rack mount, as is my UPS (also APC). I've got a UPS for the same reason you want one, lots of brown-outs here, especially during the summer time. Haven't had any problems with additional noise or anything since hooking it up. Also haven't had my TIVO reboot in the middle of recording a program because it had the power cycled on it! smile

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#53733 - 05/23/05 10:06 AM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
nfaguys Offline
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Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
Thanks Owl & Butch.
Would like to ask Butch what brand/model/wattage or whatever he used.

And do you fellas also use a Panamax or Monster or some brand of surge protection. My guess is that the UPS doesn't handle that problem.
Thanks in advance.
_________________________
Living Room:
5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room
990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov
Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director
Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83
Old Sony 60" SXRD TV
Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones



My "Man-cave":
4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!!
990/755/4-KEF 107s
Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director
Alesis 16x4x2 mixer
Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38
Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3

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#53734 - 05/23/05 04:49 PM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
butch Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 13
Loc: Ottawa, Canada
I have been using 2 APC smartUPS 1400's. Although right now I have been only using one of them. I have had lots of power hungry units hooked up to them with no problem. My last upgrade before the 990 was a Bryston 6B, I spoke with Bryston about hooking there units to a UPS and the told me since the unit has a 20 yr warranty plug it right into the wall. So the 6B is on its seperate breaker. My 4B is plugged into the UPS as well as everything else with no problems or any noise at all. As for protecting your electronics I don't think you can go wrong with APC, after all its what they know best. It protects against surges, high and low voltages, and shows you on the front of the unit if there is a problem (with and option of also an audible warning) hope this helps

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#53735 - 05/23/05 05:38 PM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
sluggo Offline
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Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
If you can find a UPS that will support running all connected equipment [they have wattage capacities usually printed on them, if not in the model #], do so. UPS systems, as Butch notes, protect well in most ways, especially voltage regulation.

The downside is, they're often expensive for the units capable of handling amps and projectors [wattage, as above]. Moreover, most [except very pricey units] don't have sequential on/off for your equipment, and don't protect secondary strike sources [cable, phone]. If you're OK with this, the unit you're looking at ought to serve well.
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#53736 - 05/24/05 08:30 AM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
nfaguys Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
Sluggo (Greg):
Points well taken. Strikes/surges are not protected against. Maybe surges, but don't know.
Perhaps the ideal situation is UPS and a PANAMX or a whatever. Your opinion appreciated. Thanks
_________________________
Living Room:
5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room
990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov
Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director
Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83
Old Sony 60" SXRD TV
Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones



My "Man-cave":
4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!!
990/755/4-KEF 107s
Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director
Alesis 16x4x2 mixer
Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38
Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3

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#53737 - 05/24/05 11:13 AM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
Owl's_Warder Offline
Desperado

Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
I'm not at home so I can't look right now, but I think I've also got the SmartUPS from APC but Butch's are a little bit bigger than mine. When I finally upgrade my 1050 to separates and get a display I'm worried about enough to put it on the UPS, I'll definitely have to add another to my system. But Butch is right, these units do protect against over/under voltage and surges.

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#53738 - 05/24/05 12:09 PM Re: UPS-brownout protection? Ques
sluggo Offline
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Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
If you're looking to spend some serious coin (over $1K), APC now offers a line of HT-specific units with all of the features of line conditioners coupled with battery backup. Panamax & Monster also offer battery backup, but only as a separate unit from their LC units.
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