Thanks obie, I must have missed that, sorry. I know see it is actually mentioned in this thread as well.

So it uses a lower line Cirrus processor than the 990, correct?

So they can't say much because of agreements? Someone is going to have to disect one.

I want to believe that the UL will sound good, but with onboard amps and non-adjustable crossover, it makes me wonder.

With the great customer service, you would think they would make sure to be upfront with all technical and operational data, allowing for informed decisions. Agree?

I just recently discoverd AV123 because of Gonks pre-amp comparison site (BTW very cool Gonk). I am looking at the LMC-1 because of its price, a pre/amp for that price is awesome. They also have a very nice build quality look. I was also impressed by their amp. But it costs more than the equivalent Outaw (770) and in a review I saw it only reached 175W without clipping, not the rated 200W. Its too bad Outlaw decided to drop the 950 instead of just updating its look and maybe a couple of features, I really dont care about balanced outputs for example. I know they dont want a huge product line but two pre-amps doesnt seem excessive. How long has AV123 been around? Has anyone dealt with any of their products?

Like Outlaw, AV123 is an excellent company to deal with. AV123 has been around for roughly the same time Outlaw has. Their owner used to be the owner of Audio Alchemy and before that was involved in Infinity. Like most of the Outlaws, MLS (the president of AV123) has been involved in this industry his entire life. I even think his family dates back to Marantz.

I like both models but it seems to me the LCM-1 lacks features it should have and has features that are uneccessary (2 zone capability & amp built in) on the other hand the 990 is unreasonably large & has the almost useless DVI switching...it is very hard to decide between these 2 because they both are not a 100% of what a consumer in this price range is looking for in a pre/pro
however, I am leaning towards the 990 because of the BM i have smaller sattelites in the rear channel & they might be better off with a higher crossover point

I would be interested in what amps you fellas are using with your new 990s.

I have been looking on this website for information on a matching 5 or 7 channel amp, but have not found what I am looking for. Any links for the matching amp?

Outlaw's amp line-up includes the 7100 (7x100W), 755 (5x200W), 770 (7x200W), and 200 (200W monoblock). Since the 990's faceplate is a new design style for Outlaw, none share the same faceplate currently. I'm using a pair of Model 200's and a Model 750 (predecessor to the 755).

Thanks gonk. I read somewhere on this board that Outlaw may be introducing some new amps this year. Does anyone have a link to more information? Perhaps a specific newsletter?

Well, we know that the 790 is still in the works (7x300W, balanced and unbalanced inputs, two power supplies with separate power cords). Based on the level of interest in updating the faceplates of the existing amp line-up, we may also see some changes at some point, but there has been no official word about such plans.

Ender you hit it right on the nail. Thats whats happening to me. And you are right, what the heck do you need a two channel amp on a pre-amp for?? If anything, you are ruining one of the virtues of a pre-amp, no high powered stuff going on to cause distortion.

Actually if I wasnt so picky with my equipment I would buy a used 950 and be done with it. So Gonk how well did you take care of your 950? ; )

My 950 had a pretty comfortable life, but a few days after the 990 arrived, the 950 took a road trip to Texas and found a new home in woof*'s equipment rack. Outlaw has asked that this forum not be used to sell equipment, but a number of new 990 owners have been turning to Audiogon and eBay to sell their old receivers and processors - there seems to be a healthy supply of 950's available in those channels.