#53286 - 05/14/05 11:29 AM
Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Now that I have the 990 and 755 (and some other older stuff) I know I should have a power conditioner. I reviewed the thread about conditioners in OUTLAW-TO-OUTLAW http://ubb.outlawaudio.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000627 Different ones were discussed. gonk uses Panamax. BrickWall and Monster were discussed. Some use UPS as well. Considering that I have a dedicated single-use (hometheater) 20 AMP circuit perhaps you gunslingers, desperados and outlaws would make a recommendation from the following: Monster 2500. Monster HTS3500. Monster Pro3500. BrickWall...and whether a UPS should be purchased. Also if anyone could give me a heads up on the Alesis PowerTrip 8...here's a link to it. www.alesis.com/product.php?id=73 I'm asking about it, because I already have one and it seems to have some of the same functions. Price is a lot less, so I wonder. Thanks in advance. BTW: Unable to do a "PREVIEW POST". Wonder why. I was able a while back.
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#53287 - 05/14/05 05:09 PM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 269
Loc: Canada
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#53288 - 05/14/05 06:29 PM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Hi Trikos. Thanx for response. Funny you should metion windpower. We have a 17.5 kW wind turbine on a 120 ft tower on our property. Yesterday we were generating on average 12 kWh/hr. Maybe more. Good wind up here. Makes the meter run backwards when generating more than we're consuming. This is funny...but now more true than ever, since I obtained a 755, and still have my other listening room with mega power: When a friend asked why I (nfaguys) needed a windturbine my friend remarked: "...he's got a kick a** stereo!! I guess if Kick-etc is 2 ch I now have 2.5 times that. Maybe I need a bigger turbine
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#53289 - 05/14/05 06:41 PM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 75
Loc: North of Dallas
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I have the Panamax MAX 5100. We have no problem with dirty power here and so I really can't tell the difference with or without. I like the 2 high current outlets and the fact I can turn on my amps with a 12vdc trigger, and have them power up on a 10 second delay. There are other outlets that will follow the trigger too. I use that for my cooling fans and power to my 7" LCD monitor I use to search the menus on DVD-A so I don't have to power up the Sammy DLP. Check Here for the best pricing around.
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#53290 - 05/14/05 08:45 PM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Desperado
Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
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You really only have need of a UPS if you have equipment that requires cool down before power off (ie, front projector) or anything with an OS (HTPC, automation system).
If you like the Alesis, I'd go with it. The only meaningful advantage of the Monster/Panamax units is protection from undervoltages (by shutting down), but if your power is not prone to them it may never matter. Otherwise they're overpriced (esp. Monster).
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#53291 - 05/15/05 08:47 AM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Sluggo thanks. Actually I'm not aware of (though there may have been)surges--who knows? The Alesis product literature and instructions don't mention undervoltage...and we have occasional power loss. So I suppose I should be concerned about undervoltage. I guess a separate UPS would copmplement the ALESIS unit. Suggestions and opinions most welcome
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#53292 - 06/07/05 07:03 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/01/05
Posts: 54
Loc: Yarmouth, ME
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For those that are interested, and need a power conditioner. APC will be releasing two new power conditioners mid July. The price points of these new conditioners are very competitive. www.apc.com/products/apcav/products/index.cfm?action=model&id=307 Both the units look to be very nice with great features.
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#53293 - 06/07/05 07:15 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
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They're also releasing pricier units that contain battery backup , for those with projection systems and the like. Beats the others' multi-unit solutions, and probably the same or less in price.
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#53294 - 06/11/05 10:58 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Bought a PANAMAX 5300 from ebay. And guess what I discovered. Because the manual had their URL I decided to visit. It links to a list of internet business from whom your PANAMAX won't have this wonderful warranty. So all you outlaws out there be careful. I really messed up on this one. I had no idea. Maybe it was posted here and I missed it.
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#53295 - 06/12/05 02:12 AM
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Desperado
Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
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Sorry to hear about that. Be aware that you won't find much in the gear arena (unless the manufacturer themselves or a big box retailer like Sears is auctioning it) on ebay "new in box" that will be warranty-covered by manufacturers. Most manufacturers have lists on their sites similar to Panamax', and I think you can find something comparable on Outlaw's site as well. Only used gear w/transferrable warranties (a la Outlaw) are sure-fire. Not sure how these folks get this stuff so cheap, but there's one of your reasons, apparently. I can say this much - your 5300 is a solid unit, have one myself. I've only had one Panamax go out on me in 10 years, and that was in fulfillment of it's intended purpose: defending my gear, which it did perfectly. Enjoy peace of mind.
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#53296 - 06/12/05 08:45 AM
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Thanks Greg. I guess you just live and learn
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#53297 - 06/12/05 02:32 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 12/27/04
Posts: 326
Loc: ChicagoLand/USA
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2 Panamax MAX 5100's on 2 systems...good so far... Bill
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#53298 - 03/22/06 08:28 AM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Gunslinger
Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 46
Loc: Eatontown, New Jersey
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I'm setting up my new upgraded 990 and 7125 and I have never used a trigger switch. I received one with my amplifier. I also have in my arsenol a Panamax 5100 which can utilize a trigger. My question is where do I plug in the trigger cable using this power conditioner. This power conditioner has two active ports if I recall which can be activated using a trigger. The 7125 manual says the trigger goes directly to the amplifier. Any advantage to either configuration?
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#53300 - 03/22/06 12:41 PM
Re: Power Conditioners revisited-protect 990 etc
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/10/06
Posts: 26
Loc: Salem, Oregon
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bought a Monster Power HTS3500 MKII simply to protect my gear from surges and power irregularities because I am in an old rental home and the wiring is not quite up to code. I bought this particular unit only because I found it for $150 with a rebate... making it $100 shipped.
I noticed an immediate improvement in video clarity. There is some discussion (between my wife and I) whether it also improved the sound quality and clarity--if anything it was quite minor.
The unit is probably overkill for my purposes, but between the improved picture and the protection it is providing, I am happy with the purchase. I certainly wouldn't recommend buying one of these seeking a performance boost. Only for surge protection. Any inherent benefits should be a bonus.
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#53301 - 03/23/06 06:17 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 35
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APC HT15 power conditioner is the best I have ever seen and it only goes for $300! This unit has features on it hard to find for under $800. It not only seperates audio/video analog/digital and has all of the EMI/RFI filters, it is an actual POWER CONDITIONER. It will boost the current when it's too low and will trim it when it's high. It will tell you how much of a load you have on your 15 Amp circut in %, shows the draw in Amps & %, has triggers and programable delays for outlets, allows you to adjust the brightness of the display and even turn it off, looks damn good and cost under $300!
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