In order to properly use the ICBM, you'll need something besides the product
itself. However, this contest is the reverse of the last one: This time we're
telling you what the name is, but you need to guess some things about the
product.

The Outlaws cooked this one up while sitting around their chuck wagon one
morning for breakfast. So we decided to name it after the best item on the
menu, "The Short Stack". We'll award a complete Short Stack (but without the
butter and maple syrup - too many calories for the Outlaws these days!) to
the first TWO entrants who correctly describe what The Short Stack is. To win
you need to properly describe the following:

1. The name of the commodity.
2. The number of them in the "Stack".
3. Why they are a "Short Stack".

In the spirit of the Outlaws, we'll also award one Short Stack to the best
comic answer.

Decision of the Outlaws is FINAL, and we cannot be responsible for entries
that are sent by you, but not received by our server and posted on the proper
area of our web site. (Please remember that the user name and password issued
for the Saloon is CASE SENSITIVE, and that is the reason why some entries to
the first contest did not make it to the board.) All entries must be posted
to the Outlaw Saloon discussion board no later than 11:59 PM. PDT, May 1,
2001, or sent by mail to our postal address, with a postmark no later than
the same deadline. Outlaw employees, vendors and their families are not
eligible.

Good luck, partners!

1. Interconnects (also known as wires).
2. Eight (8) (for 7.1 output from DVD-A/SACD).
3. They'll be short (1/3 to 1/2 meter) to fit between either the Source and the ICBM or between the ICBM and the Pre/Pro/Receiver.


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pat----

home: psklenar@email.com ... office: psklenar@uhc.com

no home page yet, so ...
Entertainment Center ---==*==--- DVD Collection

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I think Pat has this one wrapped up. But just in case the obvious isn't the right answer...

1. a DVD-Audio player
2. 1
3. Hey, any stack that only contains one item must be short, right?

1. a grouping of interconnects
2. six
3. because the ICBM would be placed between the DVD-Audio/SACD player and pre/pro (maybe close to either or both), and there would only be the need for "short" cables

1. a grouping of interconnects
2. five, seven, or eight
3. because the ICBM would be placed between the DVD-Audio/SACD player and pre/pro (maybe close to either or both), and there would only be the need for "short" cables


[This message has been edited by Jason_S (edited April 17, 2001).]

1. stereo analog interconnects

2. two

3. A short stack of pancakes is 2, full stack is 3. So, a short stack from Outlaw is a pair of stereo interconnects.

[This message has been edited by RichardH (edited April 17, 2001).]

1)
The "Short Stack" is the new HI-FIDELITY component isolators.

Outlaw spent long hours and rigorous testing to find the best combinations of pancake powder and water to make up these fantastic vibration dampeners. Then using a space-age (and patent-pending) secret process known only as 'Hot Skillet Cooking™' , create the engineer designed circular Short Stack "Cakes"

*available in two colors, 'natural' and 'well done' to appease any WAF requirements.

2)There are 4 of these unique 'cakes' to place under your vibration-sensitive components. Lab testing concluded that 4 'cakes' were the optimal number to support most commercial components.

3)The name 'Short Stack' references the product's signature ability. Breakthroughs in acoustical science allowed Outlaw to provide a modular isolation system for all your audiophile needs. If you have a cd transport that is prone to vibration issues, or just too close to your 5 subwoofers, take two sets of Short Stacks and double it up! while 4 'cakes' can seriously improve your systems sound, 8 'stacked' cakes has been tested to triple your systems audio quality. Your music never sounded so 'lush', 'warm', or 'vibrant'. The imaging of your speakers, or any speakers, will become so 'precise' that you will feel like you are 'there'. The difference will be like 'night and day'.

*Optimal performance will be gained from using 47 'cakes' per piece of equipment.

*Not suggested for use in households with pets or small children.




[This message has been edited by Roast (edited April 17, 2001).]

1. interconnects
2. 6
3. ½ meter or less lengths to maintain singal integrity and because ICBM meant to be close to receiver b/c supplementing features.

(originally sent in at 5:10pm, April 17, 2001, but welcomed by error messages as forwarded to Scott)

1. A Pre/Pro setup
2. 2 = 1 Preamp and 1 amp
3. The Preamp is loaded with all the bells and whistles yet pretty slim for a preamp, which is meant to be stacked and connected to a slim sized amp. And as someone above indicated, a short stack consists of two pancakes. Which is equal to the one pre amp and one amp.

Please God!!!

[EDIT] Here is my email just in case (it's not showing in my profile. alangalura@yahoo.com
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Alan J. G.

[This message has been edited by alan j g (edited April 17, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by alan j g (edited April 17, 2001).]

Just like Dr. Evil's Mini-me...Actor Robert Stack's sinister henchman.

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RussellY

It's a short stack of three-chip DLP projectors. Outlaw must have concluded that 12 stacked DLP projectors didn't qualify as "short" so they have "shortened" it down to 6 stacked DLP projectors. With 6, we can have extra-bright pictures at any aspect ratio without having to worry about brightness loss.

On the other hand, they could be 10 Sony G90's housed in Outlaw chassis. Maybe Outlaw will be able to offer the "short stack" of G90's to us for $10k each! Boy, I would jump at that offer.

1) Bandwidth balanced interconnects
2) 6 needed for 5.1
3) short in length

or
1) Silver bullet interconnects
2) Six (as in bullets)
3) Short in length ( like an Outlaws six shooter)


[This message has been edited by ac (edited April 17, 2001).]

A Short Stack is...

a) Made up of wires
b) There are 6 going from the player to the ICBM, and another 6 from the ICBM, 12 total.
c) The wires only run a short length.


Second guess, same as first but:

b) Only 6 wires


Third guess (!), same as first but:

b) 6 from the player and 7 out from the ICBM - the extra supporting the dual sub configuration, 13 total.

Alternatively, a Short Stack is:

a) made of CDs
b) there are several in the stack
c) the stack is short as it contains all the classic Outlaw #1 hits! :-)

Fun fun fun!

1. 7.1 pre-processor, amp, dvd-a/dvd-v player

2. 3

3. 7.1 audio system (w/o speakers, tv) under 1 ft tall.

~max

1. The name of the commodity: interconnects or dongles
2. The number of them in the "Stack": I agree with Deputy Perks , 6 in, 6 out for 12 total.
Possibly 6 in, and 7 out (dual subwoofers) for a total of 13.
OR possibly 6 in and 5 out (no subwoofers) for a total of 11.
No wait, there would only be 6 since the ICBM would sit below/above a DVD-A player, but the distance from the ICBM to the pre/pro/receiver could be greater (or vice versa).
Ack! Dual subs, so there may be 7.

3. Why they are a "Short Stack": Let's see, a bunch of aging audio geeks looking enviously at a dozen pieces of 12" heavy cable. Obviously, the "short" portion is Freudian (or wishful thinking).

It may also be due to the diminutive size of the unit. Since the ICBM will be basically an active crossover, it shouldn't be too large. Most 5.1 inputs are spaced relatively close, so the "short stack" could refer to a bundle of short interconnects joined together.

Gary

What: Interconnects (DVD to ICBM)
Number: 6
Why Short: Only six

[This message has been edited by Scott (edited April 18, 2001).]

Well here are my thoughts. A short stack means 2 pancakes. Thus you need 2 of something. I assume that the ICBM is some sort of bass management control for DVD-A. The short stack I'm assuming is an interconnect that bundles 6 coax into one connector. Say a firewire connector. Thus you need a short stack(2 of the interconnects described above) to connect the DVD-A to a Pre/Pro withe ICBM in the middle.

1) 1 pre/pro/tuner (w/ all the new HT sound formats) w/ 7 monoblock amps
2) 8
3) Although 8 certainly isn't a small number, 8 stacked components has the potential to be short!

Chuck

[This message has been edited by Chuck C (edited April 18, 2001).]

OK, I just had to give a couple of tries

First, maybe the deal you have on the front page is a hint.
1. a 1050 and a 750
2. 2 items
3. 2 pancakes in a short stack, 2 components in a short stack.

Second, it might be kickoff for the Pre/Pro and I think alan j g may just be right
1. a new Outlaw Pre/Pro and a 750
2. 2 items
3. 2 pancakes in a short stack, 2 components in a short stack.

1. Outlaw Pre/Pro or Outlaw 1050 *plus*

Outlaw 750

2. two

3. It's a short stack because it's two items, just like 2 pancakes is a short stack. A full stack means adding the third item, which is the DVD-A player!

The reason why the DVD-A player is not one of the two items in the short stack is because with the Outlaw DVD-A player, you won't need the ICBM!!

[This message has been edited by RichardH (edited April 19, 2001).]

1. Pre/Pro and Amp (i.e. Outlaws upcoming pre/pro and 750 amp)
2. 2. Each component (amp & pre/pro) counts as 1
3. 2 cakes in a short stack

crashball

1. The name of the commodity. - Amplifier
2. The number of them in the "Stack".
2 channels
3. Why they are a "Short Stack". Because the "tall stack" is the current, 5 channel Outlaw 750 amp - so a 2 channel amp would be a "short stack". In order to support a 7.1 pre/pro you need the 2 channel short stack and the 5 channel 750/tall stack.

1. interconnect cable bundle (seven/bundle)
2. 2
3. Because it was the best item on your breafast menu? Because there's 2 of them? Because they're short?

[This message has been edited by bonesmalones (edited April 24, 2001).]

1. The "Short Stack" is a yummy home-theater themed snackfood. A "Short Stack" will be the newest rage in home theater snack foods. The "Short Stack" will consist of two sweet miniature hotcakes sandwiched around a sweet creme filling. The hotcakes will be embossed with the Outlaw Audio Logo. The "Short Stack" is guaranteed to satisfy even the most discriminating Home Theater Fan/Sweettooth. The "Short Stack" has only the half the calories and fat as the rival Bose "SoundWaffle" snack food , but costs half as much. The marketing campaign will be the biggest in the history of the company. Slogan ideas include "Popcorn Shmopcorn, I want a 'Short Stack'!!". Celebrity endorsees will include such famous faces as Polly Holliday (Flo from TV's "Alice"), Winona Ryder, and baseball Hall-of-Famer Johnny Bench.

2. 2 "Short Stacks" will come per package since no one can eat just one. Nutritional Information (based on a serving size of one 2 oz. "Short Stack") is as follows:
Calories: 150
Total Fat: 8g
Saturated Fat: 2g
Sodium: 60mg
Total Carb: 52g
Sugars: 34g
Protein: 3g

3. Because their short, their stacked, and their downright delicious!!!

For more information about the New Outlaw Audio "Short Stack" please contact us:

info@Outlawaudio.com

Telephone (Sales): 1-866-OUTLAWS (688-5297)
(Support): 1-866-OUTLAW2 (688-5292)

Mail:
Outlaw Audio
18 Denbow Rd.
Durham NH, 03824

The "Short Stack" is a registered trademark of Outlaw Audio, Inc. 2001.

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"Have good mosh pitting!"

1. "The Short Stack" (duh)
2. 1 - Double tray dvd-a/dvd-v player
3. Two trays = short stack

grasping again.

Guess #2
1. The Short Stack (DVD / SACD player)
2. Double tray DVD (video & audio) / SACD player
3. Short stack = 2 pancakes, therefore 2 trays = short stack

Guess #3
1. Combo DVD / SACD player (the short stack)
2. Double tray DVD / SACD player
3. Short stack = 2 pancakes, hence two trays

Guess #4
1. The Short Stack
2. 1 of each: DVD player (audio & video) and SACD player
3. Short stack = 2 pancakes, so two thin components = The Short Stack

all for now . . .

1. 5.1 interconnect bundle, 7.2 interconnect bundle

2. Two: the 5.1 bundle comes from DVD-A player into the ICBM. The 7.2 bundle leaves the ICBM and goes on to the pre/pro or receiver's analog inputs.

3. It's a short stack because there's two bundles; 2 pancakes is a short stack.


[This message has been edited by RichardH (edited April 20, 2001).]

New to the whole HT thing so I'm just trying to get lucky here. (Probably a better chance here then at home with my girlfriend, darn Must See TV)

1. Center Channel Speaker
2. 1
3. They are a new speaker that is flat compared to current speakers. It delivers great sound, but takes up less room.

Or:

1. Component Rack
2. 1
3. A short rack for your components is made to be placed on a desktop. It is not a floor standing model.

Serious Guess:
1. The name of the commodity - Monoblock Amplifiers
2. The number of them in the "Stack" - 2
3. Why they are a "Short Stack" - the amps are full width components but are short(about 2 inches) in height like the old Soundstream DA2 amps.

My lame attempt at a humorous guess:
1. The name of the commodity - exotic audio interconnects
2. The number of them in the "Stack" - 1
3. Why they are a "Short Stack" - Because you only need a short stack of credit cards in order to afford to buy one of these...



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Take Care,
merc

DVD player
3
stacked as "pancakes" and 3 pancakes are a
"shortstack"

I think the short stack is the the preamp, the amp, the ICBM, a DVD player.
the Short stack is 4 pieces.
they are the short stack because this is all the basic componets to have a great home audio system in one package.

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Ted

I think pat nailed it, but didn't put the correct # of interconnects needed... since this goes between two components, so here goes:

Name of the commodity: Interconnects

The # of them in the stack: Since there are 6 channels from the SACD, or DVD-A, and the bass channel is being created by the ICBM, there are 6 inputs and 7 outputs, for a total of 13 channels in the short stack.

Why they are a short stack: hmm... the device will be little (short), and have a large number of wires "stacked" in it

Amp
2
more amps needed for a full HT

1. Its an Outlaw gunslinging tool
2. 2 items
3. they are short for a fast pull from the left and right holsters.

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James' DIY speakers

I think that the shortstack is a preamp, amp, and DVD player all in one.

There is one piece

Its called the short stack because its everything stacked into one.

1. New Pre/Pro--possible outlaw product number 1250 or even 1750 (to highlight 7.1 channel capibilites---ok, 1750 is too close to 750---make it model number 7100 maybe) with 750 amp and ICBM....(intra-racial, cross-dressing buddist marriages??).
2. components--3
3. named short stack because of it's component on component placement with small footprint and small height (pre/pro and ICBM are very thin--possibly 3 inches each) or that the designers at Outlaw have habitus similar to the Comic Book man on The Simpsons and think only of electronics and eating....guess this comment destroys my chances of winning :0 g

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[This message has been edited by Gavin Mc (edited April 23, 2001).]

dang--trying to change password--sorry for double post...g

[This message has been edited by Gavin Mc (edited April 23, 2001).]

1. Forum site
2. 39 posts as of this thread
3. Not too many people can figure out what this thing actually is.

1. Preamp/Processor
2. 2 (1 pre-amp, 1 processor)
3. It makes sense to divide the preamp circuitry and processor circuitry into separate boxes. Therefore you don't have to change out your preamp when new surround formats spring from the heads of marketing
analysts at Dolby and DTS Labs.

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The "Short-stack" kills two birds with one stone. Those who have a preamp/reciever with multi-channel inputs can add the outlaw processor to enchance their existing setup. The Processor would feature all the latest surround formats, video switching, bass managment, and a nice menu system.

The bottom part of the "Short-stack" is a standard analog preamp. The preamp has one or more sets of multi-channel inputs and when it detects a signal from the processor through the multi-channel inputs it automatically switches to "external" or "processor" mode where it acts simply as a volume control.
When the "external" inputs are not turned on, the preamp acts as a standard analog preamp, no worries about analog bypass here! This would appeal to both the enthusiast and audiophile alike, who want to keep boxes seperate.

The "short stack" would fix several problems with current surround preamps:
1. Analog bypass
2. Seperate shielding of digital and analog circuitry/power supplies
3. Video switching and analog preampness in the same box.

Here is a summary:

Short Stack:
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Also, outlaw would effecively offer a preamp/processor package without the trouble of having to constantly build new preamp circuitry whenever they need to update their processor.

The processor might even offer jitter correction! I hope you offer it in silver!

If this isn't it I am going to patent this idea! =)

[This message has been edited by Zan780 (edited April 26, 2001).]

I think that the accessory the ICBM needs is not a new component at all, but a set-up aid. In order to properly manage system calibrations etc, you need test signals (like Avia or Video Essentials for the monitor calibrations) so. . .

1) The short stack is a DVD-A and a SACD with 'Outlaw quality' test signals and calibration tracks.

2) There are 2 disks; a DVD-A disk and a SACD disk.

3) The comes from the similarities in size of digital disks to the previously referenced breakfast treat and the quantity of two completes the analogy 'short stack'.

Even if its not the right answer, a good disk of 5.1 (or more) test signals would be nice. I've tuned my system using an old car audio 2 channel disk and switching my outputs from the 1050 to my amp accordingly. What a hassle. . .

Thanks for the opportunity to submit.

S.

1. A most excellent DVD Collection, I must say.

2. 10 (Saturday Night Live 25th Anniversary, Father of the Bride 1 & 2, Mumford, Prince of Egypt, Three Amigos, Pebble and the Penguin, A Simple Wish, Mars Attacks!, Jungle2Jungle)

3. A stack of Martin Short DVDs, what else?

-avi

1. Cables
2. Three groups
3. Less than height of three pancakes

1. Miniture support feet for the ICBM
2. Four
3. Looks like small little pancakes

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1. Adapter for ICBM
2. Six
3. Two connectors high

1. Adapter for ICBM
2. Twelve
3. Two connectors high

1. Male-Male connectors
2. TWO
3. Looks like a miniture pack of rootbeer.

Any news on the winners?

....

We have to give just a few days for entrants who used the U.S. Post Office. Hang on just a little longer.

has anyone figured this out??? love the photos of the new products at Home Theater Forum---would kindly like a pre/pro and ICBM right now---but guess i can wait (since i have too)...

short stack
1)icbm
2)new DVD-audio unit
3)Pre/Pro
4)New 7 channel amp

total of 4 units stacked on top of each other and connected by New outlaw cables and connections...

named short stack because the ICBM and DVD-Audio units are very thin--the pre/pro is taller, but still fairly short---the new amp sort of blows the short part as it is taller than the rest---but still tasty as an IHOP breakfast....g


p.s. if i entered this contest, but not the ICBM contest, can i still get 30 off the ICBM when it comes out????

components--4

1. ICBM
2. New dvd-audio unit from Outlaw
3. Pre/Pro 950
4. New 7 channel amp

all connected with new Outlaw cables and connectors....

named short stack because of stacking set-up with short throw of cables from component to component...

or....

remove amp and it is the other three components listed with cables....

g

[This message has been edited by Gavin Mc (edited May 14, 2001).]

And the winners are?? Sorry I have no patience .

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Alan J. G.

Congratulations to Jason_S for correctly identifying the "Short Stack". It is a set of six interconnects, short in length (.5m), designed to go between the ICBM and the 5.1 direct inputs on your preamplifer or receiver!

Also, congratulations to JacksonWright for his winning entry in the creative category!

We'd like to thank everyone who participated!