I thought Kevin did a great job - didn't really *need* any backup. Also in all honesty several of the 'opposition' were making good points too, but mostly it was pretty irrational knee jerk type stuff, and it's generally better IMO to let a cool head like KCB handle it without fanning the fire.

Me? With a cool head? You obviously haven't seen me play hockey...

Although I thought he had one of the only valid points in the whole thread - proves it's not what you say, but how you say it.

[The 950, IMO, isn't competing in the same arena as The AVM20, Ref50, etc]

While I see some 950 bashing on the forums, it is nothing compared to the Rocket speaker bashing over on AVS. ALthough the Rocket bunch is pretty vocal bringing some of it on themselves. For the record I own a 950 and the Rockets and am very happy with both.

For what it's worth, Outlaw gear is highly regarded on the SMR Forums, the forums that I frequent the most.

http://forums.smr-forums.com:8080/

Jeff

Charlie,
My problem with Ricky was, that he never owned the 950, so his "opinion" of it is rather "invalid".
I would never bash anything I don't have first hand knowledge of.Basing any opinion on price alone is pretentious IMO.

I think that in general, HTF sometimes has a problem with people making a global proclamation, and then because their ego's are too big (or something!), they will try to argue a losing vantage point until the death of a thread... There *are* other viewpoints and opinions as well as facts, and no one knows everything about everything... But some people, even when presented with incontrovertible fact, still won't budge.

Nice job over the Kevin (and you too Mary, I peeked at the AT Pre/Pro thread too ). Sorry for not joining the fray, but while I was never banned from HTF, I certainly came to feel very unwelcome (especially after some of the rather derogitory and insulting emails started coming in ) and haven't been there in ages.

Still loving my Outlaw 1050, 950 & 750!

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...unless you're talking about svsubwoofers...

i recently saw a photo of a $2k+ passive sub where it showed serious defects in the aluminum cone of the driver. the comment was made (by the co-owner of svs) that it was only cosmetic and wouldn't effect the sound. this comment was followed by sighs of relief and applause.

Ah, that Ricky dude is here

I was taking about straight, not buy one and sell...which I know how to do very well.

KCB's Outlaw vs Anthem demo was one time in someone else's system. Not the best way to judge a product. But that's valid right? People mention that I can't bash the product because I've never owned it. Well, I've heard the Outlaw on three occasions in other people's systems. And I've owned over a dozen 5.1 processors in my system.

And what personal evidence do you guys have that the 950 competes "straight" up vs $3-4k prepros? What other 5.1 processors have you guys owned in YOUR systems?

And if you think I bought down DT, you weren't there. The ownership abandoned the software and site years ago.

[This message has been edited by Ricky (edited March 30, 2003).]