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#45647 - 03/15/03 03:02 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
nohjy Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 21
Loc: Lehigh Valley, PA
Way to go Outlaws!! I expected the worst and got the opposite!! You guys are good! I am looking forward to getting the kit and watching Gladiator in glorious DTS-ES. My compliments!

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#45648 - 03/15/03 04:58 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
Since presumably we'll be opening up the 950 without nullifying its warranty or those cautions stamped prominently in back, in order to replace the E-PROM, maybe people can finally post pictures of what's inside. If so, I wonder if we'll be able to notice some differences among the red dot, blue dot and pre-red versions by the pictures. That's assuming an E-PROM replacement is appropriate for the different "dot" versions.

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#45649 - 03/15/03 06:01 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
GMAN Offline
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Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle,WA,USA
Outstanding job OUTLAWS!!!!

If only the rest of the industry would provide such great customer service.

BRAVO!!!!!
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#45650 - 03/16/03 04:14 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 1054
Loc: Santa Clara, CA
I have a suggestion too. Hun mentioned this one another thread (and here too!).

In the new software release, why not invert the phase of the signal going to the sub for the digital crossover in the 950? Then, it would be more or less in phase with the 6 ch input, and any 2 ch input in bypass mode.

And then, has Outlaw ever confirmed this problem? I've always said "out of phase", but the exact magnitude of the phase difference between the digital and analog material sent to the sub probably depends on the crossover freq, and it's probably something like 142.5 degrees and not 180 anyway.

??

And while I'm suggesting *other* "easy" software suggestions, I'd personally like an an additional CES mode specifically for 7.1 setups. DPL II, DD, DTS: instead of a mono signal derived from the surrounds fed to both the rears, I just want the surround info copied to the rears. So left surround also goes to left rear, and right surround also goes to right rear.

1st one should be easy, 2nd one maybe not (storage space? the right eprom?). I never use DTS Neo 6, or the 5/6/7 channel stereo modes, so those could be replaced, for me.

I'd even pay a few bucks for the above 2 suggestions. (Man, am I opening a can of worms or what? Hee, hee. )


[This message has been edited by Kevin C Brown (edited March 16, 2003).]
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#45651 - 03/16/03 11:43 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
charlie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
I suspect the fix for the DTS-ES bug is either getting bug fixed library code from a vendor or essentially 'flipping a bit' to activate some chunk of logic in that vendors library, or something like that.

While certainly worthy I suspect what you want would be orders of magnitude more effort, since it would require a whole new design/develop/debug/test/release cycle.

And, every time a feature is added it's an opportunity for a new set of bugs to hatch. In the business it's called 'feature creep'.
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#45652 - 03/16/03 07:51 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
The Hun Offline
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Riverside
Kevin,
Well said, I support your ideas completely.
Now if Scott would only respond on this.

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#45653 - 03/16/03 09:24 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
charlie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
Oh don't get me wrong - they're good ideas, but I doubt it's practical to make that sort of changes (newly added features) at this point in production, but you never know.
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#45654 - 03/17/03 08:48 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
Philip Hamm Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 08/29/01
Posts: 93
Loc: Northern Virginia, USA
I only have 5.1 now, but plan on upgrading to 6.1 or 7.1 some time in the future. Therefore this problem doesn't affect me now, but it will be nice to have the fix in place (a long way) down the line when I upgrade my system.

I will be paying attention to the procedures by which I can get the upgrade. Good job Outlaw. I'm sure the new chips are going to be cheap.

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#45655 - 03/17/03 11:28 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
charlie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
I was under the impression the kit would be a warranty deal?
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#45656 - 03/17/03 12:16 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
Philip Hamm Offline
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Registered: 08/29/01
Posts: 93
Loc: Northern Virginia, USA
I meant cheap for Outlaw, of course it will be warrantee service for us.

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