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#45687 - 03/20/03 09:12 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
Scott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 673
Fellow Outlaws:


We'd like to keep you up to date on our progress regarding the DTS-ES LFE issue with three brief, but important pieces of information:


* We have completed testing and verification of the revised software, and it is functioning properly and without any further concerns.


* We have already updated all units that are currently being shipped to customers ordering a new Model 950. If ordered a Model 950 and it was shipped after March 17th, it contains the latest software. Anyone who might have been waiting to order a new unit until this item was addressed may now order with confidence.


* It will be a few more days before we have the details for you on how we will handle the upgrade for those with existing units. Although the software has been checked and approved, we are still working out some of the logistical aspects of the upgrade process. We'll have the details ready for you in a few days.


Thanks for your patience as we finalize the best method to take care of this with the least possible inconvenience.


Regards

The Outlaws

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#45688 - 03/20/03 02:15 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
JkFruit Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 34
Loc: Orange, CA
Scott

Is there consideration to replace complete unit for those recently purchased the 950 and is still within the 30 days return guarrantee?

It would make sense for us not to mess with the unit (assuming that we have to replace the EPROM by ourself).

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#45689 - 03/20/03 03:35 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
nohjy Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 21
Loc: Lehigh Valley, PA
Its funny, I just asked Scott a similar question. I would be very interested to know the answer to this question myself.

John

[This message has been edited by nohjy (edited March 20, 2003).]

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#45690 - 03/20/03 05:50 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
The Hun Offline
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Riverside
Quote:
The re-routing of bass from the other speakers could potentially fool you into thinking you were getting ALL the bass information in DTS-ES mode

I measured 8db differnce between the DTS-ES Discrete,and the DTS+CR-C modes when playing LOTR EE [Sauron's finger with the ring falls......].All speakers were set to small and sub said "yes".
On the "Haunting" the differences were so big,that even if you were "deaf" you would "feel' the difference,I'm not kidding!

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#45691 - 03/20/03 07:01 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
charlie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
I'd imagine it depends on the mix.
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#45692 - 03/21/03 01:21 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
The Hun Offline
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Riverside
No! Maybe on the sub.
Oh I forgott to mention,while the 6 main speakers were set to small they were inactive,so I only heard/measured the sub output at my main viewing spot.

[This message has been edited by The Hun (edited March 21, 2003).]

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#45693 - 03/21/03 09:15 AM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
chris3g Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 26
of course it depends on the mix. i thought everyone was clear on this already...bass is contained in both the five main channels, and the lfe channel. The amount of content that is in the lfe channel is up to the engineer that does the mix for that particular movie.

if you set your speakers to small and play an ES track, you're going to get bass output. You'll get all the bass in the main channels below your crossover point, but you'll be missing the lfe bass. IF you compare this output to non-es DTS track with an SPL meter, you're going to notice a reduced output in the ES track. It's not that the bass is being played at a lower output level, it's that you are simply missing a good portion of the actual bass content.

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#45694 - 03/21/03 01:18 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
The Hun Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Riverside
Quote:
of course it depends on the mix.

Really!
Of course it does, as I pointed out with the Haunting having more of difference then with LOFTR[The least difference I was observed was with Blade II]The point is you loose LFE content all togheter no matter how much was mixed there to begin with.
Was this somehow unclear from my posts?

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#45695 - 03/21/03 03:55 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
bossobass Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 430
Loc: charlotte, nc usa
just an FYI:

when you do get your DTS-ES 'fixed', use caution when demoing LOTR.

i have no problems with the LFE coming through with DTS-ES, and i'll tell ya, the LFE signal is super-hot with this disc.
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#45696 - 03/21/03 10:52 PM Re: LFE ISSUE UPDATE
The Hun Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Riverside
Can't wait!

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