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#45608 - 03/10/03 08:00 PM LFE Output Frequency Range
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The 950 manual says that the Bass Management Low-Pass Slope is 40-150Hz. Is this the entire frequency range of the subwoofer output? What is the frequency range of the subwoofer output on the 950?

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#45609 - 03/10/03 10:06 PM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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Originally posted by MeanGene:
The 950 manual says that the Bass Management Low-Pass Slope is 40-150Hz. Is this the entire frequency range of the subwoofer output? What is the frequency range of the subwoofer output on the 950?



you're looking at the low pass points that correspond to the selectable high pass filter points. (40 - 150 = 40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 150)

the LFE, or .1 channel in DD and DTS are 3 hz to a brick-wall filter at 120 hz. (that means no 121 hz info)

the LFE channel in dvd-a/sacd is technically full range.

the 950 has a default low pass at 120hz, with a slope of 24 db/octave, on the LFE channel.
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#45610 - 03/10/03 11:05 PM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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I wanted to know because I am planning on sending the signal directly from the sub-out on the 950 to the sub with no additional filters or cross-overs. Hate to ask this in the Outlaw forum, but what is better the ICBM or the EQ from SVS? I want to get the bass from anything and send it to the subs.
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#45611 - 03/11/03 12:43 AM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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Mean Gene- Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but since the 950 low passes everything to the sub output below 120 Hz, like BoB said, nothing above that gets through, so you don't need anything but a cable in between the 950 and the sub.

Now, if you want to start trying to tame room-induced peaks (and valleys), that's where a good parametric eq can come into play. But you certainly don't need one.
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#45612 - 03/11/03 11:27 AM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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So the sub-out on the 950 is 0-120Hz? I will be using a Samson S-1000 in parallel mode (single input for two channels) to two seperate subs each with a single 15" 8 Ohm driver.
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#45613 - 03/11/03 12:05 PM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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No transducer in audio can reproduce 0 Hz (DC, wind) and I suspect the 950 has a DC blocking filter as well. BoB indicated that DD/DTS cuts off around 3 Hz, I'm not sure where that data came from but he's generally quite reliable. The 950 might further limit that, but the spec page gives the lower frequency -3 db cutoff as 10 Hz, which should be plenty low...
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#45614 - 03/11/03 02:25 PM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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No transducer in audio can reproduce 0 Hz (DC, wind) and I suspect the 950 has a DC blocking filter as well. BoB indicated that DD/DTS cuts off around 3 Hz, I'm not sure where that data came from but he's generally quite reliable. The 950 might further limit that, but the spec page gives the lower frequency -3 db cutoff as 10 Hz, which should be plenty low...


Not really none.. you could just hook up interconnects to a desk (wood or plastic, not metal ) and call it a 0hz transducer

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#45615 - 03/11/03 03:29 PM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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I suppose everyone has a 0 Hz transducer if you count output at -infinity ...

Seriously, DC would be a steady breeze I suppose, like a wind tunnel. Pretty hard to find a wind tunnel that's reversible and controllable to the extent required for audio I bet.
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#45616 - 03/11/03 04:22 PM Re: LFE Output Frequency Range
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Originally posted by charlie:
I suppose everyone has a 0 Hz transducer if you count output at -infinity ...

Seriously, DC would be a steady breeze I suppose, like a wind tunnel. Pretty hard to find a wind tunnel that's reversible and controllable to the extent required for audio I bet.


Ah.. yeah that'd be true... so you could have pressure not so sure about sound (I guess it could be called spl) even really high spl at a constant 100 mph wind at 0hz

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