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#45481 - 03/12/03 12:10 AM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 1054
Loc: Santa Clara, CA
Everett- Here's the best way to test it:

1) Turn all of your speakers off.
2) Set all of your speakers as small in the 950. Sub on.
3) Find a bass intensive scene in your favorite DTS or DTS-ES disc. With either DTS or DTS-ES mode on the 950 selected, you should hear sound out of your sub. You might have to turn it up to hear it.
4) Now, change all of your speakers to large, sub on in the 950. Keep all of your speakers off.
5) Repeat #3. I bet you get LFE to the sub with DTS, but not DTS-ES.

You obviously have to be using the digital connection between your DVD player and the 950.
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#45482 - 03/12/03 05:30 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
Everett Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 87
Loc: Brevard, N.C.
Kevin: Interesting development! I turn my 2 amps off(a 5ch and 2ch) set to large and put on LOTR EE and chose DTS ES. Played the first scene that has incredible bass content, but nothing coming out of sub. I then went to menu and change surround from large to none and bang . Bass and more bass! I then toggled back to large, expecting to lose the signal, but it remained perfect. I cant explain why it did not work in DTS ES initially, but it certainly worked perfect following the sequence I performed. There is something strange about it, and would not normally discover such abnormalities since I prefer to run small all around and Xover at 80! Thanks for the info!

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#45483 - 03/12/03 05:45 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
Everett Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 87
Loc: Brevard, N.C.
Kevin: I need to amend my earlier statement; Yes, I heard bass with all set to large and yes, I was in DTS ES. What I didnt realize the 950 defaulted back to the standard DTS only setting not ES. In ES, no bass with all large setting, in DTS only, NO PROBLEM !

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#45484 - 03/12/03 08:54 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
As Kevin said, a few posts above: bet you get LFE to the sub with DTS, but not DTS-ES

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#45485 - 03/13/03 02:28 AM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 1054
Loc: Santa Clara, CA
The devil is in the details of *how* you test for it...
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#45486 - 03/14/03 05:13 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
nohjy Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 21
Loc: Lehigh Valley, PA
Any word from the Outlaws on this yet?

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#45487 - 03/14/03 06:19 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
GMAN Offline
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Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle,WA,USA
In my system the front speakers are set to large and all the rest are set to small including the back surrounds. Is the bass I'm getting from my sub LFE, summed bass or a combination of the two?? Also, what is the speaker setting that is causing the LFE problem?? (In novice terms please)

Thanks, GMAN
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#45488 - 03/14/03 06:33 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
eskendir Offline
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Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 65
Did Outlaw posted any official response to this problem anywhere?

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#45489 - 03/14/03 06:59 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
grundrc Offline
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 66
Loc: Montgomery, TX
Look back on pg2 of this threat, March 9 at 12:22 from Scott.

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#45490 - 03/14/03 07:30 PM Re: No LFE w/DTS-ES
GMAN Offline
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Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle,WA,USA
I think I got it. Went back and read all the posts. From what I've read my conclusion is:

1. Speaker settings have nothing to do with the problem.

2. Simply stated, the 950 does not output LFE information when in the DTS-ES mode.

Is that it????
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