Kevin, It's not a great film, but it's fun enough to hold up to multiple viewings. Watch your favourite parts in DTS CES and see how significant the difference is. Also, try those two chapters I mentioned (in the extended cut) using PL II CES mode on the 2-channel track.

Sanjay

Just got my 950/7100 combo yesterday. I set my effect speakers to none because I don't have any yet. Watched Stargate in dts for a little while and the sub was going nuts!! No problem with mine. I did throw in LOTR dts and the first chapter with the mega bass drop, I couldn't feel it but I did have my config for the sub set at -9dbs, which according to my spl was reference. I did move it back to 00dbs and the sub sounded nice and tight!

wmarkw,

The problem seems to be manifesting with DTS-ES, but not with DTS. Which mode were you in?

This is why flashable firmware is *really* nice to have.....

Charlie

so all DTS-ES soundtracks lose the LFE channel? This isn't an isolated incident?

Hmm..maybe I'll wait for a new pre/pro from the Outlaws b4 I get the 950 now.

This shouldnt be happening at all, regardless of what speakers sizes are set too. This bothers me, and I am days away from ordering the 950

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I'll be checking this out on my 950, this weekend. I just borrowed a friend's LOTR set for this purpose.

--Mike

I've noticed when playing a dvd recorded in dts-es when I "PAUSE" play the 950 display will show Input Type DTS 3/2.0
Press "PLAY" it will show Input Type DTS DSCR 6.1
I guess this means my 950 can't process DTS 6.1 which is one of the main reasons I bought it.
Has anyone else verified this problem?

Hi. My turn. Played my copy of "Gladiator" tonight in DTS-ES mode. Played "Unleash Hell" scene with Fronts set to "Small" first, then "Large". I then set all speaks to "Large". I have LFE output to my subs in all configurations. Each configuration sounds somewhat different, but I would expect them to. My thought is this-- I would guess very few "full range" speakers are capable delivering reference level bass in any quantity below 40-50dB. Many subs will not reach reference levels (depending on a lot of things- like size of room) in the "real" bass range, but they will probably get you closer than a full-range speaker. Are you sure when you selected DTS-ES from the menu it stayed in this config? Did you physically put your hand on the sub to see if anything is being output to it? I don't know what the problem could be, but mine seems to work fine. Best of luck at finding the problem. OH, and did you call Outlaw and ask them about this?

Well..... steves findings have confused this issue even more. Im glad he ran the tests though.

Looks like I'll wait a while to see how this all unfolds before I order the 950.

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Steves, Thanks for the help. I'm glad yours works properly. I will call "Outlaw" get mine fixed. I have tested with serveral dts-es dics. My sub amp has meters which register any signal and I've felt the woofer. The LFE works fine while in 5.1 dts.
Thanks again, mike