Charlie:

I understand some of the bass from the sub is due to the speakers set to small, but my sub was shaking and booming like crazy. I can tell it sounded better than my old yamaha dts receiver. Big time. And I was impressed when watching LOTR with that unit last fall!

How do you run DTS-ES on a 5.1 system?

Exactly! I think some people may be confusing derived bass with discrete bass, just because something is coming out of their subs.

The reason I mentioned a DTS test disc earlier is because having access to an isolated .1 LFE track will allow users to determine if the LFE content is truly being discarded or possibly being re-directed to the 'large' mains (as happens when the SUB output is set up as 'none'). Remember that one of the conditions for the problem is that all speakers have to be set to 'large', which might have some unexpected effect on LFE routing.

Just because the LFE signal is not coming out of the SUB output doesn't neccessarily mean that it is discarded. I know it's unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

Best,
Sanjay

Good point on the routing - could be something more complex than simply discarded.

Actually, even with Avia, and some thought, this can be tested. I can't remember if Avia duplicates the same DD tests for DTS, but all you need is a main L (and/or R) signal then the sub. Then can try changing the surrounds from large to small and see if the sub signal changes. Just have to remember that even though the signals are only DTS, you have to put the 950 in DTS-ES mode. If I have a chance, I'll take a look at the Avia tests to see if there's anything we can use. Or, if anyone gets to try it first.

Yes, so if the Rotel doesn't have the problem, then is probably just a software on top of the processor problem.

I'd hate to be the engineer/programmer who screwed this one up...

Any guess on what color the dot will be on this particular fix, assuming it'll be a dot? Blue dot and red dot are taken...

Will:

Gee, do you think maybe it will be a polka-dot?

But what do I know, I'm only a dog?

(Then again, some of my doggie pals DO have spots -- if not dots!)

ARF ARF, says Iggy!

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someone on avs forum with a P2000 did the test with speakers set to large and turned off, and says he got lfe output in DTS-ES, although output in DTS seemed greater.

sort of interesting, if accurate. any p2000 owners here to confirm?

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Yep, but software will tend to have bugs. I'd REALLY like to see how the product manager that decided flashable firmware was an unneeded feature wriggles out of this one.

Charlie- I can understand bugs, ... took Sony 2 years and 3 software upgrades to get the TA-E9000ES "right"...

But this seems to me to be a pretty big one.

Oh wait, I said "software upgrades" ... Hee, hee.

Would be nice to get confirmation on the P2000. At least 2 people here thought they didn't have the problem, but when they tested correctly, they did have it.

Purple, I say "purple".