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#44808 - 01/28/03 04:17 PM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
Jason J Offline
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Soundhound - now that's a pretty cool piece of gear. I would love to hear the sound of that thing. It's is really amazing how many studios still hang on to their vintage outboard gear and how much some new gear tries to emulate their sound!!

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#44809 - 01/28/03 05:09 PM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
dengor Offline
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I got a standalone RIAA equalizer made by Recotron for about $35 or $40. I purchased it from the Wild West electronics web site.

It works fine.

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#44810 - 01/28/03 06:06 PM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
jwallace Offline
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Registered: 03/29/01
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Loc: Richardson, Texas, USA
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Originally posted by Jason J:
Playing devil's advocate is one thing, just plain misinformed is another. A comment like the one above may move me to avoid your future posts on this board. That would be a shame, but please try to watch out when personal opinion outweighs established and provable knowledge.

Getting back to the discussion at hand, Music Hall also makes a phono pre-amp in inexpensive ($100-$200) range. I have experience with their entry-level turntable and it really does impress me.


Come on now, lets be civil!

There are two issues with digital recordings that we often confuse:

I thought that dynamic range was 16 bit or 24 bit sampling.

And that sampling rate was resolution (44.1K, 48K, 96K, etc.).

Vinyl has digital beat on sampling rate but not on bit depth. I still have a bunch of vinyl records which were dbx encoded and use a special decoder to retrieve the dynamic range. They work well!

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#44811 - 01/28/03 08:53 PM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
charlie Offline
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Coming from a software engineering standpoint resolution meant bit depth to me, but it's an ambiguous term, thus is really pretty meaningless. Bandwidth, frequency response, S/N ratio, etc are terms with well defined meanings that I'd be interested in an example of vinyl beating digital by any significant margin.
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#44812 - 01/28/03 09:27 PM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
"Digital sound forever." Remember the slogan that got a lot of people to replace entire lp collections with 16/44 compact discs?

All I know, is that lps have a much more realistic top end than CD. That's why they invented DVD-A and SACD: attempts to get even closer to the analog sound of lps (without the downsides, of course).
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#44813 - 01/28/03 10:26 PM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
soundhound Offline
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[This message has been edited by soundhound (edited January 28, 2003).]

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#44814 - 01/29/03 12:28 AM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
bobliinds Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 221
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
Ok, Soundhound, now you're getting into MY territory.

End to end acoustical recording. All the way, baby!


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#44815 - 01/29/03 12:47 AM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
charlie Offline
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Now I'd like to get my hands on one of those.
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#44816 - 01/29/03 12:50 AM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
soundhound Offline
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Bits? WE DON'T NEED NO STINK'IN BITS!!

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#44817 - 01/29/03 01:24 AM Re: A Q about phono stages & the 950
charlie Offline
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Well, back in my day we had to make our own bits, we didn't just run out and buy these fancy pre-made ones....
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