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#44130 - 01/31/03 12:33 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
Philip Hamm Offline
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One year later and I still think it's a lot of bang for the buck. In fact, if I were in the market for a pre/pro today it still would be my first choice - all things considered.
No kidding RAF. When my previous pre/pro kicked out on me last month there was one phone call to make. (and a trip to the attic to dig up that old RF enabled DD decoder)
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#44131 - 01/31/03 12:40 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
charlie Offline
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I've never heard anyone seriously question the value provided by the 950 (or most other products from Outlaw) - a real tribute to the model Outlaw Audio is using.
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#44132 - 01/31/03 03:26 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
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No one seems to argue that the video switcher in the clones has wider bandwidth than the 950.

Or is the improved switcher being questioned as well?
No one argues that the video bandwidth specs put out by Outlaw and Atlantic Technology are nominally different. Has anyone actually measured the video bandwidth of either?

And on another topic, RAF, it is nice to see you posting here.

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#44133 - 01/31/03 03:41 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
Will Offline
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One year later and I still think it's a lot of bang for the buck. In fact, if I were in the market for a pre/pro today it still would be my first choice - all things considered.

It's my first choice too but the latest, blue dot version of the 950 came out only about a month ago, and has an improved sound quality, reduced hiss, and greater dynamic range, at least in some systems, compared to earlier 950's.

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#44134 - 01/31/03 03:57 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
SayersWeb Offline
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Registered: 11/07/02
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Loc: Herndon, VA
I think the 950 is by far the best value in a pre/pro.

I went with the Rotel RSP-1066 to avoid the wait for the buzz problem to get worked out. Now that the issue is resolved I will strongly recommend the 950.

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#44135 - 01/31/03 04:09 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
charlie Offline
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...Has anyone actually measured the video bandwidth of either...


Good point, although I would hope both AT and Outlaw have made some effort to test basic specification compliance internally.
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#44136 - 01/31/03 05:19 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
Robert A. Fowkes Offline
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Registered: 03/17/01
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Thanks for the kind words, gang. I've never really been "away" although events of the past six months have had to make a lot of web surfing with active participation take a back seat for a while.

I'm still here, enjoying the 950 at the one year mark. Yes, the beta units probably didn't have some of the idiosyncracies of the production units (due to some vendor changes that have been worked out) so I never had a "hiss" issue (or I certainly would have mentioned it.)

In fact, until a few weeks ago I was still running with good old "Number One." Peter graciously did a swap out with me since there are a couple of features (I like the ability of defeating the On Screen Display) that finally had me give in to a blue dot model.

All in all, I have no reason to change statements I've made over the past year regarding the quality and the sound of the 950. Any problems I have are nit-picking, at best, to me. For example, when they added OSD = 0 seconds (On screen display OFF) I would have preferred if they retained the 3 second choice and dropped one of the longer intervals. In fact, as you approach a 30 second On Screen time for the display you might as well add an "Always ON" option and ditch the longest settings. I know it's a question of MIPS, but that a suggestion for a future iteration of the 950.

And, even though the acquisition time of the 950 is now much, MUCH faster than my beta unit I still have a slight issue with delay when running a Dish PVR as the source. However, this might be an anomality of the PVR, not the 950. (I own both the Dish 501 and the 721).

All in all, well worth it.

For those interested...

I'm so happy with the 950 and all it provides that it has become completely transparent to me. Now I'm working on the video end of things. Some of you may already know that I won a Runco CL-500 on the HT Cruise 2002 and Don Stewart convinced me to think hard before replacing my SONY VW10HT. The Runco is a DLP unit (the SONY's an LCD) but the Runco is not native 16:9 (the SONY is). So it would have been a trade off.

However, Sam Runco allowed me to barter up to a CL-700 (native 720p) unit at a remarkable price (lips sealed) and I recently heard that he will allow me to wait for the just announced Runco CL-710c (3rd Generation DLP with the HD-2 "Mustang" chip and other visual upgrades) with no additional cash outlay by me.

Therefore, sometime in the Spring I should have a new unit hanging from my ceiling. A fitting complement to the 950. And, of course, I'll be talking about it once it arrives.

Take care.

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My HT (latest update 04/17/02) Now includes Outlaw 950 and Outlaw 755
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#44137 - 01/31/03 05:43 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
kfrieze Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
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RAF-
The dealy you are experiencing with your PVR is not unique. I'm getting it with my DirectTV Tivo unit as well. It seems the 950 takes its sweet time to relock on the signal --If the could fix this delay, the unit would be perfect!
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#44138 - 02/03/03 06:10 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
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I wish there was an AT forum like there is a 950 forum since there have been so few AT owners who post here.

Does anyone know if the AT pre/pro was upgraded like the 950 went through recently when the 950 blue dots came out? If so, are the customers who bought pre-upgraded AT pre/pro's being offered a free upgrade opportunity, like the people who bought earlier Outlaw 950's?

Will

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#44139 - 02/03/03 09:03 PM Re: Outlaw 950 vs. Sherbourn vs. Atlantic Technology
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