Outlaw Audio home shop products hideout news support about
Page 10 of 27 < 1 2 8 9 10 11 12 26 27 >
Topic Options
#43899 - 11/25/02 04:39 PM Re: Problem Solved
soundhound Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Quote:
Originally posted by John Padova:

VERY much with one we designed ourselves - some very BAD experience with others that were commercially available for mortal budgets


So, was the horn you built yourselves any good?

PS: The noise in the 950 has been fixed, we have the forum to ourselves

Top
#43900 - 11/25/02 04:44 PM Re: Problem Solved
John Padova Offline
Deputy Gunslinger

Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 12
Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
"So, was the horn you built yourselves any good?"

Actually yes -- frequency 'curves' were basically frequency 'lines' and off-axis was DAMN good - even the bass went to about 32 Hz -6 dB - which was measured by a government lab - and not just an 'ad spec.'

Top
#43901 - 11/25/02 04:46 PM Re: Problem Solved
soundhound Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Quote:
Originally posted by John Padova:
"So, was the horn you built yourselves any good?"

Actually yes -- frequency 'curves' were basically frequency 'lines' and off-axis was DAMN good - even the bass went to about 32 Hz -6 dB - which was measured by a government lab - and not just an 'ad spec.'


So what do you have against horns if your's worked so well?

Top
#43902 - 11/25/02 05:09 PM Re: Problem Solved
Will Offline
Desperado

Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
Soundhound,

Have you measured the S/N? If so, what does the S/N ratio measure on your modified 950? You measured the S/N to be worse on my unmodified red dot 950 than on yours. But the hiss was louder in your 950-based system because your speakers are horns and are more efficient than mine which are direct radiators. Anyway, I hope the modified 950's have consistent S/N readings rather than some being measurably better than others. I'm no expert in these matters though.

Top
#43903 - 11/25/02 05:10 PM Re: Problem Solved
charlie Offline
Desperado

Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
Quote:
Originally posted by John Padova:
But maybe there was some good in my getting 'off-track' - it seems like there were more than a few here that thought of the efficiency characteristic of horns to be the reason for 'hiss sensitivity' - it was (is) instead the increased higher frequency response because of the wider dispersion due to the higher directivity-feature of 'horns.'


Not trying to offend, but .... actually it is the sensitivity (or efficiency) that causes the noise problem to be more obvious. It's a pretty easy concept and SH and myself have both explained it - did you miss that part?
_________________________
Charlie

Top
#43904 - 11/25/02 05:13 PM Re: Problem Solved
charlie Offline
Desperado

Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
Quote:
Originally posted by Will:
Anyway, I hope the modified 950's have consistent S/N readings rather than some being measurably better than others. I'm no expert in these matters though.


Of course some variation is going to be there, but I too would hope for improved consistency unit to unit.
_________________________
Charlie

Top
#43905 - 11/25/02 05:23 PM Re: Problem Solved
soundhound Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Will:

I don't have a replacement 950 yet. There was only one prototype that was circulated. I had it for a day, and measured/listened to it. My findings are in this thread from yesterday, I believe. It basically has a _real_ improvement of about 12db, which is quite big. I am familiar with the ICs and other parts they were replacing, and I can see no reason that there will be any variation between units to speak of. Why your's and mine measured so wildly different is anybody's guess. Once they get the units modded in Malaysia, We should get them, and live in blessed silence - aside from the car crashes, explosions, and other acts of wanton violence

Top
#43906 - 11/25/02 05:31 PM Re: Problem Solved
charlie Offline
Desperado

Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
Yet another reason I'm happy to no longer be a habitual 'early adopter'....

I wonder if the clones ever had this problem, and whether the 'fix' will eventually roll over to them?
_________________________
Charlie

Top
#43907 - 11/25/02 05:37 PM Re: Problem Solved
soundhound Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
Yet another reason I'm happy to no longer be a habitual 'early adopter'....


Come on Charlie, we know you love to live life on the 'bleeding edge"

Ah, the CLONES!! _That_ should be very interesting! I really feel bad for the Outlaws having to deal with this mess....I'm sure the clones had the same problems....

[This message has been edited by soundhound (edited November 25, 2002).]

Top
#43908 - 11/25/02 06:37 PM Re: Problem Solved
steves Offline
Desperado

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 356
Loc: Oregon
Quote:
I wonder if the clones ever had this problem, and whether the 'fix' will eventually roll over to them?

Good question... last time I saw any Clones, they were attacking a bunch of Droids...

Top
Page 10 of 27 < 1 2 8 9 10 11 12 26 27 >

Who's Online
0 registered (), 501 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
audio123, Dustin _69c10, Dain, REP, caffeinated
8717 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
The Wyrm 3
FAUguy 2
butchgo 2
kiwiaudio 1
Forum Stats
8,717 Registered Members
88 Forums
11,331 Topics
98,708 Posts

Most users ever online: 1,171 @ 11/22/24 03:40 AM