A little birdy told me that in some systems, the reduction might be more on the order of 2/3's or so...

For example, for me: 4 ft for my rear center goes down to 18" (gets it out of any listening position), and my mains that were at about 2 ft, gets them down to 6-8".



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My cat just ate such a bird

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Soundhound and Kevin C. Brown,

Since you evidently have modded 950's in house, can you say how the modded 950's compare hiss-wise to the pre/pro's you were using before the 950? I understand the modded 950 is less hissy than your red dot 950 which you both thought was hissy, but how does it compare in terms of hiss, to the pre/pro's you used before the 950?

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So, when are these so-called "new and improved" 950s going to ship? Will it be a running change? (That is, selling them as the deplete the older, defective 950s.)

Will

When you say 'well over a foot' I expect you would mean 40-50-60 per cent more -

So that would put it in the range of 17-19 inches.

That would still mean it would be not audible in any place someone would actually LISTEN to speakers - in fact I would dare say that there are only rare cases where a speaker is listened to UNDER 4 feet.

I'm just wondering out loud (at over 4 feet ) if this all isn't a hiss in a teapot.

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According to Soundhound's tests, my red dot 950 doesn't meet its S/N specs.

Will:

The only Pre/Pro I have to compare it to is my Sony EP 9-ES, and the modded 950 is much quieter.

You should call Outlaw directly for any info of that sort.

I guess I'm just used to living in 'hiss city' - with the efficiency of my horns, I can hear hiss from my crossover and power amp by themselves out to a foot. To combat noise, I even have my gain structure so that the drive going to the electronic crossover is +15db at a CDs full scale output in order to reduce the noise of the crossover, which uses video buffer amps. The power amp for my high frequency horns (1,200Hz and above) is a single ended triode, which puts out (count 'em) 7 watts - and with my gain structure, it is actually _attenuating_ the voltage being fed to it, to drive the horns.

Has anyone actually done a frequency analysis of their 'hiss?'

I'm also a bit confused with the occurrence of hiss with high efficiency speakers. Shouldn't the efficiency just push the whole frequency sensitivity 'curve' up? - and the other non-hiss sounds around the 'hiss' frequency' increased in volume - leading to a simple 'wash.'

High efficiency horns shouldn't be selecting just the hiss - why isn't everything just remaining in the same RELATIVE distribution regardless of efficiency?

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