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#42843 - 10/08/02 11:00 AM Clones
randyb Offline
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Loc: Kansas City, MO, USA
Interesting article

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/clone_prepros.php

Is the price of the Sherbourn wrong?



[This message has been edited by randyb (edited October 08, 2002).]

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#42844 - 10/08/02 11:37 AM Re: Clones
jetsetter Offline
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Registered: 09/30/02
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That data appears to be wrong. I believe the price of the Sherbourne is about $1500. Maybe someone alse here could confirm this?

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#42845 - 10/08/02 11:47 AM Re: Clones
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
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Call 'em and ask.

(978) 663-7385
info@sherbourn.com

Sherbourn Technologies, Inc.
19-3A Sterling Road
N. Billerica, MA 01862

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#42846 - 10/08/02 11:49 AM Re: Clones
tonygeno Offline
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Registered: 09/12/02
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Loc: MA
Sherbourn's list is $1500.

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#42847 - 10/08/02 12:10 PM Re: Clones
randyb Offline
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I just posted on there forum and 1,500 is correct. They are going to revise the article but they apparently are thinking a street price close to 900 which seems pretty low to me (maybe not for some Sony etc. but....)

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#42848 - 10/08/02 12:38 PM Re: Clones
soundhound Offline
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From the article:

"For example, quality control is probably very good since there are multiple production lines producing this common product for several hardware manufacturers."


I'm going to withhold comment on this one...........

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#42849 - 10/08/02 12:45 PM Re: Clones
Scott Offline
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The following facts are well known. At Winter CES, Outlaw Audio held a press conference with EastTech. SMR News reported on this press conference. There, Outlaw explained that it had worked jointly with EastTech to develop a platform for a new processor, and that Outlaw would be the first to release a processor (the Model 950) off of this platform. Outlaw also made note that other companies would release pre-amplifiers based on this platform. At this time, we know of four other companies that have developed a processor based on that platform. As time goes on, other companies will also use this platform as a springboard for their own products. This fact was never hidden as our press conference was held for all industry journalists to attend.

As for differences in the units, that is up to the individual manufacturers to decide. As for the pricing difference, anyone that knows the Outlaw Story understands that it is unfair to compare the price of our goods to those of other traditional companies. Our direct M to C (manufacturer to consumer) model enables us to eliminate an entire level of mark up (specifically, dealer mark up).

Best Regards,

Scott

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#42850 - 10/08/02 01:31 PM Re: Clones
randyb Offline
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"As for differences in the units, that is up to the individual manufacturers to decide. As for the pricing difference, anyone that knows the Outlaw Story understands that it is unfair to compare the price of our goods to those of other traditional companies. Our direct M to C (manufacturer to consumer) model enables us to eliminate an entire level of mark up (specifically, dealer mark up)."

Unfair to whom? The dealer I would assume. As the squeeze on the dealer continues, I think mark-ups continue to erode. At least that is what people in the know (dealers) have been telling me.

I really don't think the intent of the article was to harm anyone or being unfair for that matter. It appears to me (excepting the erroneous price info admittedly) that the intent was to show what direction the industry may be heading.

I guess my question is aimed at Scott-did you take it the article was unfair?

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#42851 - 10/08/02 01:37 PM Re: Clones
Will Offline
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Quote:

At this time, we know of four other companies that have developed a processor based on that platform. As time goes on, other companies will also use this platform as a springboard for their own products. This fact was never hidden

Atlantic Tech and Sherbourn are known. Who are the other companies?

I read that some of the Outlaws were somehow also connected to either Atlantic Tech or Sherbourn. I don't recall the exact details.

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#42852 - 10/08/02 01:40 PM Re: Clones
Scott Offline
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Quote:
I guess my question is aimed at Scott-did you take it the article was unfair?


Only in the expectation that there shouldn't be a price difference between a direct to the end user company and one that sells through traditional dealer networks. My suspicion is that the writer may have been unaware of how our business model works.

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