By the way I did not intend to "conviently" overlook this feature/ I guess in my system I not in the need for it!! Crap I had the Denon AVR 3200 (no DTS, etc) for over five years, I just dont upgrade all that often (yikes I'm lying - in past 12mo new Amp, 950, Turntable, SACD player, Ultimate Outlet, Juice Bar, Cables for all this stuff, new vinyl, now SACD's). The wife is gonna up and leave me!!