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#41892 - 11/12/02 11:05 AM Re: Clones Part 2
sdurani Offline
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I thought the AVM-20 was based on Motorola's latest chipsets.
D'oh! Well, never mind then.

Sanjay
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#41893 - 11/12/02 03:29 PM Re: Clones Part 2
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I do know, that the original versions of the AVM-20 that shipped, did need their chips (EEPROMS?) changed before it could accept the ver 2.0 software. Now, they are all shipping with the newer chip.

So, maybe we can call the Ref 50 an Anthem clone...

(Both based on Moto chips.)

A question: are there any newer pre/pro's with SHARCs? Or just receivers? (Denon's and Sony's come to mind.) The Sony TA-E9000ES had SHARCs, but I can't honestly think of a current model pre/pro that has them.
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#41894 - 11/12/02 05:21 PM Re: Clones Part 2
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Isn't the Sunfire line of pre/pro's also based on the DigitalDNA (Mot) stuff? Also, yes, EPROM and EEPROM are different...

I would be surprised if the Outlaw PROM was not socketed - but that's not generally a viable route for field upgrades.

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#41895 - 11/12/02 07:18 PM Re: Clones Part 2
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I think the Tag-McLaren prepro is a SHARC based unit.

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#41896 - 11/12/02 07:41 PM Re: Clones Part 2
sdurani Offline
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Kevin,
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...are there any newer pre/pro's with SHARCs?
You were right about the Sony 9000, it was one of the first pre-pros to use a SHARC DSP; its replacement probably will too. I think the TAG uses 2 SHARCs for their model AVP-192 (upgraded AVP-32). The Mark Levinson No.40 comes with 4 SHARCs installed; upgradeable to 8 total. The Lexicon MC-12 also comes with 4 SHARCs installed, but is user upgradeable to a total of 16. Can't think of any other off the bat.

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#41897 - 11/12/02 10:04 PM Re: Clones Part 2
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Sanjay- Know what the DC-2 and MC-1 used? (Just curious.)
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#41898 - 11/12/02 10:24 PM Re: Clones Part 2
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I'm curious....

Is there a recap somewhere of the different chipsets and the pros/cons of each? Do they only handle the surround processing or do they handle the entire audio path? There seems to be a number of chipsets and people on this forum seem to know them well.

I find my Sony ES receiver to be very harsh sounding (even when using external amplification). Is this the result of the chips used? I mostly notice it in DVDs and not as much in stereo CD playback. My Infinity speakers have the Emit tweeter and tend to be a little crisp to begin with.

I'm hoping a new pre/pro will help.

Thanks,

Sayer




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#41899 - 11/12/02 10:43 PM Re: Clones Part 2
Will Offline
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my Sony ES receiver

Which ES receiver are you using and is an an external amp used with it?

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#41900 - 11/12/02 10:55 PM Re: Clones Part 2
jm99 Offline
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The Anthem AVM20 actually requires a board ($) swap by the dealer (end-user swap rumored to void warranty), and a software upload for the 2.X upgrade.

I have, what could be a faulty recollection, from the beta test discussions that the Outlaw did have a socketed eprom.

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#41901 - 11/12/02 11:03 PM Re: Clones Part 2
SayersWeb Offline
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Originally posted by Will:
Which ES receiver are you using and is an an external amp used with it?[/B]


It's the DA30ES. Up until now I've used a pair of Carver Silver 7 monoblocks as my mains and the onboard amps for the remaining three channels.

I just bought an ATI 2505 amp which is on it's way. I also ordered three pair of the Outlaw PCA interconnects, which are on the way. Maybe these will help a bit.

Sayer

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