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#41789 - 10/11/02 12:14 AM Re: Clones
fly guy Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 30
Loc: Big Island, HI
Just got this email from AT:

"It is true that both the Atlantic and Outlaw processors share the same
platform, however, we utilize proprietary circuitry and have selected
different components. We are aware that Outlaw has had a small percentage
of units with an elevated noise floor in certain systems with specific
speakers. A majority of their units are not prone to the noise problem.

Atlantic has shipped several hundred of the P-2000's and we have not had
complaints.
Home Theater Magazine will have a review for the P-2000 in the next 60-90
days."

I wonder what proprietary circuitry they are talking about?? And what different components??

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#41790 - 10/11/02 12:30 AM Re: Clones
Will Offline
Desperado

Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
If there's a P-2000 store near Soundhound, chances are he'll measure its S/N ratio, like he measured the S/N in his 950 and also in my 950.

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#41791 - 10/11/02 12:55 AM Re: Clones
soundhound Offline
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Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Quote:
Originally posted by Will:
If there's a P-2000 store near Soundhound, chances are he'll measure its S/N ratio, like he measured the S/N in his 950 and also in my 950.


Will, and all:

Gotcha covered. That was the first thing I thought of also, so I called all the AT dealers in my area. Seems the P2K is a special order item that they don't have on display, but can get if I _pay_ for one. Big Fat Bummer. What's a poor SoundHound to do??? The "propriatary" circuitry they are talking about is probably just the "A" or "selected, hand picked" versions of the same ICs that the 950 uses. It would be cost-prohibitive to re-design for another IC: the circuit boards would have to be changed, the whole works. Using a higher grade of parts would, at least in theroy (fingers crossed) result in lower noise.....Anybody in Los Angeles want to buy one and get it measured????


[This message has been edited by soundhound (edited October 11, 2002).]

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#41792 - 10/11/02 01:42 AM Re: Clones
charlie Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
What was the 'street price' for the AT?
_________________________
Charlie

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#41793 - 10/11/02 02:00 AM Re: Clones
Will Offline
Desperado

Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
Quote:

Seems the P2K is a special order item that they don't have on display, but can get if I _pay_ for one.

With that policy, Atlantic Tech should be selling the P2K like gangbusters.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited October 11, 2002).]

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#41794 - 10/11/02 04:08 AM Re: Clones
soundhound Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
What was the 'street price' for the AT?


I didn't ask, but considering it's 'special order' status, I'd expect to pay full zoot for it.

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#41795 - 10/11/02 04:13 AM Re: Clones
soundhound Offline
Desperado

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
Will:

The Atlantic Technology web site doesn't even have a dealer finder! I had to call them, on _my_ nickel if I remember correctly to find out. There are actually more dealers in the area than I thought, but I got the same answer from them all. Maybe they don't _really_ want to sell any P2Ks for fear of people having hiss problems (-:

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#41796 - 10/11/02 08:50 AM Re: Clones
e-dogg Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 138
Loc: OHIO
[QUOTE]
Right now, good quality = Japan. And not so good quality = those other Asian countries.

My 1050 has a stamp "made in Mylasia" I hope this dooesnt mean its low quality too.
_________________________
Randy

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#41797 - 10/12/02 02:22 AM Re: Clones
dmeister Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 06/13/02
Posts: 39
Loc: Overland Park, Kansas
Quote:
Originally posted by e-dogg:
My 1050 has a stamp "made in Mylasia" I hope this dooesnt mean its low quality too.


I suspect that Malaysia is where the Koreans move their productions sites to in order to reduce manufacturing costs, Korea is where the Chinese move their production sites to, and China is where the Japanese move their sites to. ;-)

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#41798 - 10/12/02 02:32 AM Re: Clones
Will Offline
Desperado

Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
Quote:

My 1050 has a stamp "made in Malaysia"

As does my 950. Outlaw's proud to be an American company, but many of their products are from overseas. Their amps are American, but made originally by another company.

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