Do they work per imput? Are they supposed to revert back when you change inputs? Do they reset if you turn it off?

Mine read the same as the calibrated inputs. I lower one and change inputs and the trim stays lowered.

Trim and calibration are the exact same setting, and are universal for all inputs. The only difference between the two is that one plays a test tone for the channel you are adjusting and the other does not (so that you can use tools other than the 950's internal test tone to calibrate the system).

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gonk -- Saloon Links | Pre/Pro Comparison Chart | 950 Review

Uh, okay. That isn't how trim works on any other device i've heard of.

It's an example of the poor user interface on the 950.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited October 19, 2002).]

Yeah, "trim" should be independent of the cal values.

Which should be independent for each input.
(or some other mechanism for balancing different inputs).

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Matthew J. Hill
matt@idsi.net

I like that idea: different trim settings for each input. That way, a person could goose the sub for movies, but not for music if they wanted to.

As well as balancing the overall levels of different inputs.

I know you guys prob feel I sing one song about the Outlaw, but I have my personal like/dislikes also.
I generally don’t post them as I see certain issues blow out of proportion rather too frequently.
I would love this feature myself.
Plus the addition of a “Temporary Trim” control category which includes the Treble/Bass from the input calibration screen with the trim choices, which defaults back to match your calibration settings when the 950 is powered down.
This way, if I want to adjust a single difficult piece a feature which could be handy in the situations which occur at times. Ex: Input is cable/satellite and the center channel needs a bump for poorly mixed/sent dialogue and as pointed out the situation where the sub could use fine-tuning for a given movie. I could tweak what I like just for that 2 hrs and expect the 950 to clear it off and go back to my baseline calibration, (to start from next time). And with the vast differences in the quality of some CD’s I could see if coming in handy as a quick way to play with the sound on any given disc.

But how much memory/computing power does it take to include all the ‘convenience’ items we’d some of us like to add here or there? And I assume the more adjustment/features included the higher potential for conflicts.

While I'm not intimately familiar with the 950 hardware/firmware, I am familiar with softare and embedded systems. This sort of thing would require a bit of effort to develop the menus, a bit of memory to store things (menus, parameters) but would require almost zero real-time CPU cycles.

It's mostly just a matter of dev and QA time as well as design time.

I agree; in my experience, it's a very useful feature. In the ideal world we're supposed to aim for a flat frequency for all sources. However, in the real world, I've found that listeners tend to like their bass slightly exagerrated when watching movies and slightly subdued when listening to music.

Best,
Sanjay