Charlie - thanks for the input, but these belong in the "other" thread.

"Exactly. You'd think a preamp at twice the price could at least do that well". -

unless you've had a 950 in your sytem (and excuse me if you have), how would you know?

"It's starting to look like the Outlaws may have cut a few too many corners and managed to produce a quality assurance nightmare." -

geeze wheres the balance/perspective
Charlie, I've seen as many (probably more) POSITIVE reviews/posts on the 950 as negative. And this is meaningful, as generally more people complain bought something being wrong that right. Hence, a "nightmare" would be if the negative posts outnumbered the positives.

Maybe Outlaw can use the Atlantic Tech spec parts, partially or totally, to improve things."

See #1/ditto for the Atlantic Tech in YOUR home.

"If this is in fact the case and they are just having unit to unit variations."

Likley, and I think electronics are like sports for guys (me at least), as good as my 950 sounds to me, I still was sweating the hiss, even enough to complain some. Sports - the Raiders are my lifelong favorite team, and even at 3-0, I still complain /sweat the bad stuff.

I'm gonna cut the Outlaws some slack. Its a new unit, they had some issues (what new pre/pro hasnt), been very responsive to everyone/crap they CALL YOU at home/(bet your dealer never done that), and most importantly, the point of my thread was to discuss good/benifical news./(or better yet take your threadfart somewhere else).

I've solved my hiss/its well out of ear shot now. Lowering the gain 1/4 and recab with RS meter, its now ear to tweeter to bought 1 foot at +10 volume.

Not sure if juice bar added much yet/need to listen for awhile.

I still am getting a bit of a "buzz"/hiss as above in 5 channel stereo mode though. Anyone got any thoughts? No buzz in straight 2 channel stereo, just 5.