#40528 - 10/02/02 12:45 PM
Re: My Outlaw Story
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Desperado
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Originally posted by charlie: is the noise issue a gain structure problem I could fix with adjustable gain on the amps? I will have adjustable gains there. If you are able to turn down the level control of you power amps while keeping the trims and main volume on the 950 at "00" or below, and get a volume level you're happy with, you will reduce the hiss by the amount you reduce the level on the power amps.
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#40529 - 10/02/02 12:49 PM
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Desperado
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Originally posted by applejelly: Once I change to analog CD input, the hiss appears. Switching back to DVD does not "re-mute" it and the hiss is still there. The analog input is the noisiest mode on my unit also (not the bypass mode) but if I switch to a digital input and back to an analog input the noise does not remain high, as on your unit. It appears the hiss remaining high is a seperate issue, unfortunately......
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#40530 - 10/02/02 02:21 PM
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Desperado
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Originally posted by applejelly: Once I change to analog CD input, the hiss appears. Switching back to DVD does not "re-mute" it and the hiss is still there.
However, *my* 950 does exactly what applejelly sees. Switching back to DVD in mine does not re-mute it. The hiss remains. Just like in applejelly's.
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#40531 - 10/02/02 02:36 PM
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Desperado
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Soundhound,
In the above post, 'analog CD input' means in my case 'stereo bypass' and not the analog digital DSP stereo mode that, as you know, has even MORE hiss than 'stereo bypass'. The MORE hiss is reduced, to REGULAR hiss, as you know, when switching out of the analog digital DSP mode, to for example, stereo bypass (my 'analog CD input'), or to a digital (non-analog) mode like COAX1. And it stays in REGULAR hiss. Applejelly's point is that when the 950 first turns on, even the REGULAR hiss is missing. But the REGULAR hiss comes on as soon as he switches to analog (and, in my case the REGULAR hiss comes on after something plays, even in a digital mode).
Will
[This message has been edited by Will (edited October 02, 2002).]
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#40532 - 10/02/02 04:07 PM
Re: My Outlaw Story
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Desperado
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OK guys, allow me to suggest a 'hiss labeling protocol'
No hiss: ah! Low hiss: hiss Regular hiss: hisss More hiss: hissssss Extreme hiss: HISSSSSS
agreed upon?
[This message has been edited by soundhound (edited October 02, 2002).]
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#40533 - 10/02/02 04:09 PM
Re: My Outlaw Story
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Gunslinger
Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 23
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It sounds like a faulty IC that's creating the hissing condition. Now the fix might not too an easy fix (perhaps swapping out IC board that handles a certain portion of the inputs).
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#40534 - 10/02/02 04:10 PM
Re: My Outlaw Story
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Desperado
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Maybe putting in the board that would normally go into the high zoot Atlantic Technology P2000......
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#40535 - 10/02/02 04:29 PM
Re: My Outlaw Story
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Desperado
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Anybody look at the insides of the AT?
It's possible that despite the marketing claims to the contrary, the AT on the inside is the same as the 950. If AT wanted to make their pre/pro different, wouldn't they have added functionality? No, instead they say they're adding premium hand picked components. Sheesh.
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#40536 - 10/02/02 05:00 PM
Re: My Outlaw Story
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Desperado
Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1176
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In theory swapping out higher grade ICs in a production line is a pretty simple thing, as long as each 'run' is pretty long. And the cost would be pretty much limited to the downtime on the line plus the extra cost for higher zoot parts. Lots simpler than re-engineering.
It would be dangerous for a company to make public claims like this and not be able to back them up, it seems to me.
I also really like the cosmetics of the p2000. Wonder what the street price will settle down to be?
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Charlie
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#40537 - 10/02/02 05:12 PM
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Desperado
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It would be dangerous for a company to make public claims like this and not be able to back them up, it seems to me.
I'd love to hear them back up the claim. But do you think they'll tell us which parts are premium parts in the 950 clone, and non-premium parts in the 950? [This message has been edited by Will (edited October 02, 2002).]
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