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#39612 - 09/11/02 05:45 PM new 950s have low gain?
ScottAvery Offline
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Registered: 02/13/02
Posts: 40
Loc: Haymarket, VA
Do the new 950s have lower than expected volume output? I've seen several posts about the "red-dot" 950s having this problem.
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#39613 - 09/11/02 05:55 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
Scott Offline
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Hello Scott,

The "Red Dot" 950s simply have a lower gain (by 3dB). This is not a problem or a design error, just a difference.

The "Red Dot" Model 950 has more than enough gain to drive virtualy any amp to clipping.

Scott

[This message has been edited by Scott (edited September 11, 2002).]

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#39614 - 09/11/02 06:16 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
brianca Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
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Loc: austin, tx
Was that one of the hiss fixes?


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#39615 - 09/11/02 06:59 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
willscary Offline
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Registered: 04/05/02
Posts: 175
Loc: New London, WI, USA
It is truly amazing how people can and will pick anything apart. I am astonished that any home theater equipment is ever sold considering the way every piece of equipment is cut down.
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#39616 - 09/11/02 07:15 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
bossobass Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
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scott,

my 950 arrived today. i just finished watching pearl harbor. you might want to ask my neighbors if there was a volume problem.

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#39617 - 09/11/02 07:46 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
brianca Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 187
Loc: austin, tx
I don't think it's meant critically. It's just an observed difference between the two units. People seem to be curious what the differences are. I don't think it's wrong for the people who have the new ones to comment on how they sound compared to the original units.


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#39618 - 09/11/02 08:30 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
willscary Offline
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Registered: 04/05/02
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Loc: New London, WI, USA
He called it a "problem". Maybe I took it the wrong way. Sorry.
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#39619 - 09/12/02 02:21 AM Re: new 950s have low gain?
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
I personally can't wait to find out how loud my 950 will play.

(Still 6 - 8 weeks or so to go for me...)
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#39620 - 09/12/02 11:44 AM Re: new 950s have low gain?
ScottAvery Offline
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Registered: 02/13/02
Posts: 40
Loc: Haymarket, VA
Well it would be a problem if you lost headroom in the amp, right? 3db is half power? Or half amplitutde? how does that work?
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#39621 - 09/12/02 01:29 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
BenjaminRigby Offline
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Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 120
Loc: McHenry, IL, USA
From what Scott says, I don't think it's really anything to worry about unless you drive a Krell or Sunfire Signature at full power. He said it can still drive virtually any amp to clipping, so I would feel pretty safe that it could drive an Outlaw Model that loud. All you are losing is a little bit of loudness at the top end.

To my understanding, this is not the same as losing half the power in the amplifier. So at normal volumes (or even pretty loud levels) your system will sound exactly the same as it did if it had the extra 3db available on the 950.

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