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#38987 - 09/14/02 01:13 AM Re: double bass
Kevin C Brown Offline
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I thought it was there no matter what the mains were set at. I think that's the problem with the Rotel too, that you can't get rid of it period:

http://home.fuse.net/ill-dre/Bass%20Management%20With%20Rotel%20RSP.htm
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#38988 - 09/14/02 01:35 AM Re: double bass
bobliinds Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 221
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
I was VERY concerned about this "double bass" issue before I received my 950 last May. In practice, however, with two-channel content, I don't find that it's an issue.

Even when using bypass mode for my vinyl, I generally leave the sub on (40Hz xover) for a little extra support in the lowest octaves.

If it was an issue, I could just walk over to the rack and turn off the sub.

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#38989 - 09/14/02 01:50 AM Re: double bass
merc Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
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Loc: Deep in the Woodlands of Texas
I also found that for albums, the extra sub did not bother me. That may have been due to the fact that most albums didn't even master freqs below 40Hz or so? CD playback seems mastered for systems only down to 30-40Hz regardless....? Even if they are down to 30, the best crossover, IMO, is still 60Hz. Try it and see.
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#38990 - 09/14/02 10:53 AM Re: double bass
bossobass Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
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Loc: charlotte, nc usa
yikes!
i just scrolled and saw the multiple posts.
i didn't intend it and truly don't know what the heck went on. if it was anything i did...please forgive me
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#38991 - 09/14/02 03:40 PM Re: double bass
bobliinds Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 221
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
Merc:

FWIW, I had been using 60Hz xover until recently. When I recently recalibrated, I found myself preferring the lower xover.

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#38992 - 09/14/02 04:32 PM Re: double bass
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
I had a similar experience to you guys. The 950 came from the factory crossed at 100 Hz. I set it to 80 Hz initially. Then to 60 Hz. Now the mains are at 40 Hz. Still experimenting with the surrounds and center, though. Center sits on top of the RPTV and can sound boomy if not careful, when lower frequencies pass through. That's just the quirks of my case system, but sometimes quirks can be adjusted/fixed/changed/improved.

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#38993 - 09/15/02 04:09 AM Re: double bass
bobliinds Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 221
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
Will,

I tend to prefer my center xover at 80Hz, along with my surrounds (even though the speakers are a matched set of NHT 2.5, 1.5 and AC-1. The higher xover just clarifies the dialogue a bit more effectively.

I waffle on the surround xover. 60Hz makes for more solid surround effects. 80Hz makes for a bit more "space" around the sound, particularly when using surround synthesis from two-channel source.

I'll never be able to kill the tweaking monkey on my back.

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