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#38775 - 07/31/02 05:34 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
Smart Little Lena Offline
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Registered: 01/09/02
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I have the 950/770. 60" Tv. 2 DVD players,VHS player,Satelite all going through a 5300.
No problems so far.

Other than great relief that I finally got it chained in. And I'm still going to add to the SP area. About a week or so ago it shut down everything about 5 times over a couple days. As it was supposed to during bad storms.

My fun time, to have my purchase of 5 brand new electronic items and one of the most active lighting months we've had in a while coincide before I purchased the 5300.

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#38776 - 08/01/02 12:08 AM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
MeanGene Offline
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Registered: 06/10/02
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Loc: Simi Valley, CA, USA
This post is not a reply to any post in particular.

I don't want to sound negative, but I like the 950 because of the features available at a reasonable price. If I thought I needed a $10,000.00 line conditioner, I would probably consider moving to another house that had better power in the first place.
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#38777 - 08/01/02 10:44 AM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
e-dogg Offline
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Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 138
Loc: OHIO
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[This message has been edited by e-dogg (edited August 02, 2002).]
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#38778 - 08/01/02 11:45 AM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
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I wouldn't spend $10k... Although some people do.

I do think that spending a few hundred is reasonable, though. Especially if you're going to use it to protect several thousand dollars worth of equipment. My 950, amp, TV, other gear, etc. is probably at least six or seven grand at this point.

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#38779 - 08/01/02 01:33 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
jimr Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 38
Loc: Livermore, CA, USA
Not to mention the delayed power-up sequence which hopefully will save your speakers from popping. BTW, since I haven't actually purchased the Panamax 5300, what should be the proper delayed power-up sequence? Does the power-down sequence work in reverse of power-up? My system will have the 950 connected to 750 and ICBM for DVD-A. I will leave my DVD player, ICBM and 950 always on.

Thanks to all of you for your advise.

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#38780 - 08/01/02 01:50 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
I believe that the 5300 has options almost identical to the 5100. The ten outlets are broken into three groups: 4 "always on" outlets (for the 950, the VCR, the satellite or cable box, etc.), 4 switched outlets (for that CD changer that doesn't have a remote power button), and 2 switched high-current outlets (for the amps). The switched outlets can be set to be always on or to come on when the 5100's "on" button is pushed -- if you have a trigger, as the 950 does, it basically pushes the button for you with the trigger. Those outlets turn on as soon as the trigger fires, but can be set to wait before turning off after the trigger cuts off (I think the options are 0 seconds, 10 seconds, and 30 seconds). The high current outlets can be set to be triggered of, and will wait either 0, 10, or 30 seconds (I think) before coming on after the trigger fires. They turn off as soon as the trigger cuts off. I'm using 30 seconds for the switched outlets (the CD changer turns on at the same time as the 950, and doesn't turn off until 30 seconds later -- gives me plenty of time to stop it before it gets it's plug pulled) and 10 seconds for the amps (the amps turn on 10 seconds after the 950, and turn off at the same time).

That may be more explanation (or more confusing explanation) than you were looking for...

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#38781 - 08/01/02 01:50 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
Azistoohot Offline
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Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 47
Hi Matthew: In this house, many of the outlets aren't wired correctly. I don't know why. When I moved my system, one of my surge suppressors said that there was a "wiring fault." I bought a $4 device from Home Depot that you plug into the outlet and it tells you what's wrong. I switched neutral and hot and now the device says that this is wired correctly (however, there are other places where I know there isn't a true ground, but the $4 device says that everythings wired correctly.)

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#38782 - 08/01/02 04:35 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
jimr Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 38
Loc: Livermore, CA, USA
Gonk, as usual thank you for the detailed reply. It answered almost all my questions. The only additional clarification I need is regarding the high current outlets. Is there a delay option for turn-off on these outlets or only delayed turn-on?

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#38783 - 08/01/02 05:23 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
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Keep in mind, also, that if you trigger a 755 or a 770 off of the 950, there is an automatic 3-second power-on delay which will protect your speakers from pops. You don't need additional delays to do that. Although the 5100's delay features do sound nice in the case that you have amps that can't be triggered or don't automatically delay.

Anybody know what the 5300 gives you that the 5100 doesn't? All I can see is an extra gauge on the front.

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#38784 - 08/01/02 06:04 PM Re: Which AC line conditioner to get?
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Quote:
Originally posted by jimr:
Is there a delay option for turn-off on these outlets or only delayed turn-on?


High current outlets have turn-on delay options only on the 5100. Likewise, the other switched outlets have a turn-off delay only.

I think the 5300 includes a couple extra protection loops for satellite and cable TV, plus a front outlet. Aside from those and the analog meter, I don't know what differences there are.

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