#38661 - 07/25/02 04:13 AM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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Soon after the 950 was first released it was recalled in order to fix two problems and the Outlaws incidentally also installed the latest Cirrus code update. My take is code is updated often. Here's an excerpt:
From OUTLAW AUDIO'S LATEST NEWS EARLY MAY 2002
after we shipped the first production units to customers on April 4th it became apparent despite the intensive test process the entire design and each unit was subjected to, there were two problems that escaped detection by internal and external testers alike. We judged these issues to be serious enough to stop shipments and production while we determined the cause of the problems, found the solutions, and re-verified the entire product.
With the resumption of shipments, we have obviously addressed all the problems. As a side benefit to the delay, the down time gave us an opportunity to update the DSP code so that the product that is shipping has the latest version of the Cirrus code for our DSP engine. (Those updates involve minor code tweaks by Cirrus to improve overall performance, though they do not add any specific new features.) We are confident that the units now on the way to those who have placed their reservations for a Model 950 represent the best balance of sonic accuracy and transparency, operated by a flexible and easy to use interface. Despite the two problems, even those who received the initial units back us up on this, as have reports from the testers who assisted with the interim models while we finalized the fixes. We are confident that you will shortly see numerous on-line reviews from Model 950 owners attesting to the impeccable performance of this product.
[This message has been edited by Will (edited July 26, 2002).]
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#38662 - 07/26/02 12:53 PM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/28/02
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Ambitious as the t950 is with all the surround formats, I agree that not making provisions for an update is a design (marketing $$ ?) error. Popping, slow acquisition time, problems with certain DVD’s/hardware combos, Dolby Labs messing with the EX spec., I think all pre/pro manufactures have required more than one try to get it right. I just received my Anthem AVM20 that replaced the demo I had, it was delivered with version 1.16 software. The demo was a December build, at version 1.0, I think the 1.16 is the sixth version, not the 16th, but that is still about one a month…
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#38663 - 07/28/02 08:46 PM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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I wonder if the newer 950s have newer software. There's no way I know of to find out which software version (from Cirrus or ?) is in an individual 950.
Having new software loaded may be a concern when 950's start shipping again. I'd imagine the Outlaws won't want to emphasize any software updates, since that might encourage current 950 owners to request an cxchange to a new (hiss-fixed) 950 model.
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#38664 - 07/29/02 11:20 AM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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I'd guess you're probably right. Although they did emphasize the software upgrade when they fixed the audio dropout problem...  I imagine that's because they had already decided to recall all the units they'd shipped, which is different from the current situation. ------------------ Matthew J. Hill matt@idsi.net
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#38665 - 08/05/02 07:06 PM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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One reason to hope that, when the Outlaw 950 ships again, it contains updated software (DSP code), is the 950 is competing against the 1066 which is always being updated with new software, and some of these updates can be downloaded online.
Otherwise, people who buy the 950 as new, will get software with it that's a bit dated. Well, ok, it's not THAT dated.
I wonder if, when the 950 starts shipping in August or September or whenever, that people who buy it new, will buy it with updated (DSP) software, not the same software the 950 first had when it shipped months earlier.
[This message has been edited by Will (edited August 07, 2002).]
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#38666 - 08/06/02 02:14 PM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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So people who buy a 950 a year from now will get a better 950 than the one that I have?
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#38667 - 08/07/02 12:30 AM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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Loc: LA's The Place
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Good question. Unless the Outlaws tell us how to determine the 950's version (like the 1066), it may be hard to know.
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#38668 - 08/09/02 03:54 PM
Re: Can't Upgrade the 950's Code?
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Desperado
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I read on another thread that Cirrus (not Rotel or Outlaw) probably writes the basic software for Rotel and Outlaw surround modes -- aka the 1066's XS surround mode, and the 950's CES surround mode. The thread is at: http://ubb.outlawaudio.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000434.html
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